WORST DATE IN AMERICA FINALIST: Here Comes Santa

I was chatting with this guy online and found him intelligent and charming, so I accepted his offer for a date. He asked me to meet him at this really nice but kinda pricey French café. When I arrived in my car, I slowed down to look for parking and heard someone calling my name. A guy I didn’t recognize ran up to my car in the middle of traffic and introducced himself as my date. He looked nothing like his online photo, which must have been a decade old. He was bald with big glasses, a giant belly, and he had a huge, poofy, greying beard. It’s a young, Jewish Santa, I thought. He jumped into my car and told me to drive up the street to House of Pies, one of the worst diners in Los Angeles. I asked him if he was kidding. He was not.

We sat down and he ordered a spaghetti dinner. “You’ll have to tell me if I get sauce in my beard,” he said. I still couldn’t tell if he was kidding, but when his food arrived he proceeded to shovel it into his mouth like it was his last meal, splashing sauce everywhere. He kept grinning and telling me how awesome I was, but it seemed like he was making fun of me. Then he asked me for a ride home. I was curious, so when he asked me if I wanted to check out his comics collection I followed him inside. As soon as he closed the door, he pushed me up against his pool table and started making out with me. He was breathing heavily and his enormous beard kept getting in my mouth and sticking to my lips. It wasn’t long before he started wheezing uncontrollably. “Do you want some water?” I asked. “Wait, wait, hold on a second,” he said, out of breath. He whipped an asthma inhaler out of his pocket and took a few hits off it.

When his breathing returned to normal, he took his dick out of his pants and proudly placed it in my hand, as if he was giving me a present. It seemed tiny underneath his big, round, white belly. I didn’t have time to protest because he immediately came all over me. He then thanked me, plopped down on the couch and fell asleep. Bewildered, I washed my hands and then showed myself the door, wondering if this crazy date had all really just happened.

Comments (56)
CallingItHowISeeItFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 7:25 am

I never understand how people who seem to get a bad feeling about a person or just are not that interested in someone end up back at this person’s house, making out, and possibly more. Are they not in control of their lives? How spineless do you gotta be to not put an end to a kiss or a [whatever happened with the thing on hand]?

AndrewFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 am

I just don’t know what to think…

mereeFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 am

I, also, am speechless.

zomboidFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 am

ew. that is all.

WendyFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 am

Okay, bad date and all, but WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING GOING TO HIS HOUSE? Seriously, people, date rape wouldn’t happen nearly so often if people just a) didn’t finish out dates with creepy guys “just to see what would happen,” and b) didn’t put themselves in danger by going to someone else’s house when that person has clearly indicated what they expect will happen!

DuncanFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 am

“He was bald with big glasses, a giant belly, and he had a huge, poofy, greying beard. It’s a young, Jewish Santa, I thought.”

“Then he asked me for a ride home. I was curious, so when he asked me if I wanted to check out his comics collection I followed him inside.”

Wow… I need to get a comic book collection, evidently.

hellcatFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 9:16 am

EW. WHY would you not run immediately when his beard got in your mouth? Do you have a Jewish Santa fetish? Because I threw up in my mouth a little just thinking about it.

...February 22nd, 2010 at 9:21 am

EWWWWWWWWWW. Definitely a case of being too nice. It takes time, but people do eventually learn how to say no

gregFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 9:31 am

Sorry, hard to believe. Why would you have even driven him home, u said HOP was “just up the street”

Piper O'MalleyFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 am

I like House of Pies.

Garter SnakeFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 10:03 am

@ greg: She said House of Pies was up the street from the French cafe, not up the street from the guy’s house.
It’s annoying how people are always trying to “prove” that these stories are fake.
This whole story is hilarious. I think it should win, if only for the first sentence of the last paragraph.

tronnerFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 10:08 am

This guy gives overweight, asthmatic comic book collectors with sexual problems a bad name. That’s one of the things we discuss at our weekly online meetings (which also double as our WoW Guild Meetings).
#1 Shave your beard. We all know that real women don’t like the beards as much as the Nightelf Priestesses that hang out in Elwyn Forest.
#2. House of Pies should be reserved for special occasions, like the 2nd date or when you propose (which are one in the same, usually).
#3 Shoot up with your inhaler BEFORE you start macking with the ladies. You can do this seductively if you so choose. Like wink, puff, hold it…hold it….release and smile.
#4. And this can’t be stressed enough. If the action starts getting hot. Concentrate on your comics! You want to be a suave as Bruce Wayne was with Vicki Vale in Batman #49. Start by cataloging your comics by titile and publisher. Then by year. Then by cover artist last name. This will ensure at least 3 minutes of fun. Don’t think too much of Mystique, Catwoman or Batgirl, though. That can hasten the process.

I am dreadfully sorry that this happened and you sound like kind of a happening chick. If you’re ever at ComicConFresnoNorth I’ll be the one in the Boba Fett costume.

DevinFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 10:12 am

I just threw up, a lot.

Why do geeky men like think it’s okay to whip out their dicks. Where did he get the guts to do that. I thought comic kids were afraid of girls.

If this had happened to me I would have locked the doors and just kept driving.

gregFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 10:17 am

Garter snake, he met her in front of french restaurant and asked her to drive to HOP which is just up the street, so if she left him there he could just back to the french rest. and make his own way home, sometimes reading even these short stories require reading carefully, and having the ability to think.

Mike G!February 22nd, 2010 at 10:20 am

Good Lord, OP. And you had a hard time with the thought of making out with me? I must be special kind of hideous. :)

MarcusFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 10:22 am

He should have kept his pet monkey out of it. Rude.

BridgeteFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 am

Did this remind anyone else of the “He took it out” sequence from Seinfeld?

karenFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 11:21 am

oy veigh!!! I would have just keep driving and gone home and taken a sleeping pill. that was creepy. that is the danger of online dating. best to google the person and research them for any bad things like THIS! I still think there should be a site for those who have dated complete jerks. It should be called “WARNING!” :)

BethFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 11:27 am

@Wendy “Date rape wouldn’t happen nearly as often if rapists didn’t rape people”

There I fixed it for you.

IngridFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 11:53 am

@ Beth

THANK YOU.

Frau BlucherFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 am

Going to his house if you already thought him to be yukky…not a good idea.
AND….He Took it Out…the whole story is eeeeeeeeeewwww.

Helen SkorFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 pm

To Beth: YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!!!! I was thinking the same thing when I read that comment.

hannazmumFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 12:14 pm

dinner with young Jewish Santa = hilarious
asthmatic makeout session and premature ejaculation = horrifying
tronner’s comments = priceless

falangeFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 12:36 pm

Why did you go back to his house? Why did you allow him to kiss you and stick around? Why did you accept the penis?

MeshellFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 12:40 pm

The OP was a dingdong for continuing the date. There was no reason for going back to his house, so all I gotta say is enjoy your handful, lady.

Oh, Tronner, you’re ftw in my book.

Garter SnakeFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 1:04 pm

greg: You’re making me sigh, here. Talk about reading carefully. Nowhere in the story does it say that the cafe was anywhere near the guy’s house; the way I read it, he asked her to meet him there because he thought she’d be impressed, or because he was too embarrassed to ask her to meet him at HOP to begin with.

This is an incredibly silly point to be arguing. There’s really no need for personal attacks.

Garter SnakeFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 1:05 pm

Tronner, you are hilarious.

SamFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm

@Wendy

Date rape wouldn’t happen so often if “creepy guys” didn’t rape people. Plain and simple. People have a right to go where they want without being sexually assaulted. The only person at fault for a rape is the rapist.

actrightFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 1:39 pm

I really don’t get why you didn’t keep driving when he ran to your car calling out your name. His appearance showed what a liar he is. This date should have stopped right there, I would have never seen the House of Pies (this most be in Hollywood b/c I think that is the last and only HOP). I would have given him a few choice words and kept driving. Assert your right to cuss someone out when they need it.

LalliFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 1:56 pm

So much of this could be avoided if women could just learn to be a little more bitchy…I mean assertive. Seriously. There’s no way in hell I would have gone into that man’s house, much less let him put his face on mine without a good fight.

nonoodlezFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 2:08 pm

Reading this story was like watching a car crash in slow motion. I don’t know if I should congratulate you but great story!

Also, the comments are just as memorable. Thanks you guys for an entertaining 10 minutes

LaylaFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 3:35 pm

Tronner, I think I love you.

formerflautistFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm

Wendy,
Going over to a guy’s house is not an invitation to rape. On what planet is that code for, “I will have sex with you,” or, “Yes, I want to get raped”? The only person responsible for rape is the person who commits that act. There would be far fewer “date rapes” if people stopped raping.

DumdumFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 7:19 pm

Seriously, people. Nobody’s saying that going to a guy’s house is PERMISSION to rape. I think the point was *If a guy is a creep, and/or you don’t like him, and/or he sets of alarms in your head, DON’T go into his house.*

Date rape doesn’t happen in a crowded restaurant. If the guy’s a major red flag, don’t go back to his apartment and find out exactly how horrible he is. Let your intuition do its job.

Nobody said anyone had the right to rape anyone. But you will be less likely to be a victim if you trust your own judgment and don’t put yourself in a situation that makes you more vulnerable.

You folks shouldn’t get so sensitive about every single thing.

buffyFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm

Another vote for tronner. That comment about the inhaler made me think of Kevin James in “Hitch”, throwing his inhaler into the street before kissing the girl.

hellcatFebruary 23rd, 2010 at 8:48 am

dumdum – Wendy said date rape wouldn’t happen nearly as often if women didn’t go to creepy guys’ houses just to see what would happen. While she may have MEANT to say “Please take care of yourself and your own safety by not doing dumb shit like that” – a sentiment I fully agree with, by the way – the way she worded it came across as “Stupid girls, going and getting themselves raped and stuff. If they would just learn how to behave, people wouldn’t rape them.” Just a guess, but I think that MAY have been what people were reacting to.

MeshellFebruary 23rd, 2010 at 12:09 pm

Hellcat is spot on. It’s not about what Wendy intended, but about what she said and how it made others feel. A very innocent comment can be devastating to different people, so it is best to weed that talk out of your speech patterns. I am glad people reacted because only 10 years ago that sort of comment would have had resounding “EXACTLY!” right behind it.

And people, it’s ok to say something well intended but poorly put out. Everyone does it; just take this as an opportunity to learn and grow.

kissmymangoFebruary 23rd, 2010 at 2:49 pm

“You folks shouldn’t get so sensitive about every single thing.”

LOL. Yeah -all you hysterical bitches not accepting someone blaming you for rape! Silly gurls! It’s all your fault if some dude rapes you cuz you should trust your own judgment and be psychic and shit!

Hellcat, you’re much nicer than I am – to both rape-apologist Wendy and rape-apologist-apologist aptly named.

CherieFebruary 23rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm

@Tronner,
Night Elves = Teldrassil not Elwyn, Good try though. xo
Great comments.

This date gets 5 stars.

CaseySFebruary 23rd, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Just FYI. It’s not always just the creep guys that spring Date Rapes on you. Guys who seem normal do, too. Emphasize the “seem” there. Sometimes you DON’T get that red flag because he’s just being so perfect and sweet… and then he slips you a roofie when you go to powder your nose. Yes, I agree that taking your gut instinct and running is a great idea when you’re getting creepy vibes, always be on your guard when you’re going to meet someone new. Two rules: Never leave your drink unattended, and NEVER under ANY circumstances, let a guy into your car when driving into downtown LA.

MMMichelleFebruary 24th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

I disagree. Thinking terribly hard about what you post, and filling it with 55 smiley faces will still set someone off. Rapists should not rape, girls should try to stay out of situations that could put them there. No one is blaming the girl for getting raped, but fault and blame will not erase the act from happening. One of my best friends was raped. She did not deserve it, But she knows that when she drinks she blacks out and acts not like herself. She could have acted smarter and maybe not given that fucker the edge he needed to get her. We all have to protect ourselves from the wolves out there. Don’t make it easy for them, girls. Fight! Be a bitch! You don’t have to go to their house if they creep you out!

hellcatFebruary 24th, 2010 at 2:09 pm

But…that’s exactly the point that we’re making. You’re saying that while there’s no way to guarantee that no one will rape you*, there are reasonable precautions you can take to try to avoid it** – and then you say that there’s no effective way to keep people from flaming your post, as if that meant you shouldn’t even bother. And we’re arguing that while you’re right – there’s no guaranteed way to ensure that someone won’t flame your post – you can choose your words carefully and say what you mean instead of choosing hair trigger phrases and then being shocked that people are upset.

*which, can we PLEASE stop saying that like it’s not a given? It’s rape – by definition, someone doing something to you AGAINST YOUR WILL – so there’s no way to stop it from happening. If you wanted it to happen, it wouldn’t be rape. I will be really happy when everyone stops saying this as if they’re making some major concession to the other side here.

**”reasonable,” meaning don’t do things that are obviously stupid (like going to a creepy guys’ house just to see), not reasonable like don’t live your life like a normal pperson because your ladyparts might tempt someone into doing something to you, and it’s your responsibility to keep them away from you.

And this is the end of my rant, I promise, but the reason that I get so upset when people bring up stuff like you just did, Mmmichelle, is that it seems like rape is the only crime where all anyone EVER brings up is how the VICTIM could have avoided it. How often have you read something explaining to men what they should do to avoid raping people? Or even, less sarcastically, what can we as a society do to decrease the number of rapists out there(meaning interventions focused on the rapists, not the victims)? Because I’ve definitely heard proposed crime-intervention ideas for things like robbery or murder that are focused on more than just “try not to get robbed or murdered.” That’s why it upsets some people so much to hear that kind of talk – not because we don’t believe that women should take responsibility for themselves and their safety, or act with common sense.

SikaFebruary 24th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

Being stupid can:

Get you broke
Get you hurt
Get you raped
Get you killed

You didn’t do it, but you made choices that allowed it to be more likely to happen. That’s why your mama warned you about hanging out with the bad kids.

This is why we teach children “stranger danger”. We know that we can teach them to make better decisions about where to go and who with. Yet! If a child is abducted, we don’t blame them! We just try and learn from it so that it doesn’t happen again or to someone else.

One more note for the ladies…defend yourself! It is very common for a rape or assault victim when asked, “Why didn’t you fight back?” to say “Well, I didn’t want to hurt him.” You have every right to defend yourself! It could save your life…in more ways that one.

gewagFebruary 25th, 2010 at 3:31 am

Being stupid can: Mean your name is Sika.

Let’s stop blaming the victims here.

hellcatFebruary 25th, 2010 at 7:27 am

I think I can condense what I meant to say earlier: no one, I repeat NO ONE, is saying that women are not responsible for keeping themselves as safe as possible and for making smart decisions to protect themselves. But we’ve all done dumb stuff once or twice. Some people are lucky, some aren’t; but you can’t tell me you’ve never walked to your car alone at night, accidentally left a door or window unlocked, gotten drunker than you should have, and you think because it didn’t happen to you then, that you have some sort of superiority to people who weren’t as lucky. But that’s ALL it was – luck. So shut the eff up.

And Sika – I think the usual answer to that question is more like “because I was afraid he would hurt me”; “because I was afraid he would kill me”; “because I was too scared/numb/in shock to move.” If you can’t understand those reactions, well, I hope you’re never put in a position where you have to.

Allison112February 25th, 2010 at 8:21 am

RE: Date rape debaucle

In Wendy’s defense (hovers beneath shield) I don’t think she intended to blame rape victims. I read it as “don’t put yourself in an even more vulnerable position than necessary”, especially on a first date with a stranger.

hellcatFebruary 25th, 2010 at 9:37 am

Allison112 – I think so too, I’m giving Wendy the benefit of the doubt. I was responding more to later commenters who were all “what? if women wouldn’t be so stupid, they wouldn’t get raped.”

And I’m officially not commenting anymore – I’m getting far too serious on a site that’s supposed to be fun.

AlexFebruary 25th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

Regarding rape, people should be careful of anyone who they think might be capable of rape – remember, women can rape too and men can get raped as well (although female-on-male and female-on-female rapes are a lot less common than male-on-female and male-on-male).

PersFebruary 26th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

Everyone! Everyone! Just stay home and never leave…after reading this, I think it’s the better option! ;)

RebeccaFebruary 28th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

As the OP for the date grapist, I honestly have to say that I think this submission should win. The detail about the beard…and the sauce…and the beard in your mouth mid-makeout session (!!!) is truly the grossest thing I have heard in a really long time! I’m sorry, honey.

CanaduckMarch 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 pm

HOLY CRAP THIS IS HORRIFYING. (And very well written!)

PommieGurlMarch 3rd, 2010 at 4:29 am

This story just screams TROLL! to me. =/

DanaMarch 3rd, 2010 at 11:03 am

OP, I almost feel bad rating this 5 stars because I would be so traumatized if this happened to me. I’m sorry :(

graffitiMarch 18th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

WHY DID YOU LET HIM MAKE OUT WITH YOU IF HIS BEARD KEPT GETTING INTO YOUR MOUTH and you were obviously repulsed by everything. Were you that deprived…? Poor poor girl. But at the same time…kinda stupid I’m sorry to say.

LoMarch 31st, 2010 at 5:38 pm

“BethFebruary 22nd, 2010 at 11:27 am
@Wendy “Date rape wouldn’t happen nearly as often if rapists didn’t rape people”

thank you. finally a sane voice in this culture of victim-blaming.

JayApril 15th, 2010 at 2:53 pm

I think I would have just zoomed off when the blind date ran up to the car.

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