The Very Bitter End

I agreed to meet this girl I met online for a date at a nearby bar. When I arrived at the bar, she was already sitting on a stool drinking, so I sat next to her. When it came time to leave, she had to be helped down off the stool, and it was then that I found out that she was 4’9″. I prefer my dates to be at least 5’6″ (I’m 6’0″), though I’d made an exception for the 5’4″ she claimed to be in her profile.

I went out with her a second time, and there were two more surprises. The first was that it was her thirtieth birthday, and the second was that she was bringing friends. Her friends were weird, and all the three of them talked about (excluding me from conversation) was their golf group.

My date proceeded to get plastered. She spilled a drink on her friend, who had a spare set of clothes in the car. (Why? Who knows!) After he changed, she proceeded to spill her drink again, on the same friend! He didn’t have a second set of clothes, so he was forced to wear her drink for the rest of the evening. This did not stop them from buying her more drinks.

Then she wanted to dance to the guitar music that was being played live. The bar was small, and the “stage” was partitioned and not very wide. She proceeded to “dance” to the point where everyone was staring at her. She also flirted openly with the guitar player. At that point, I’d already decided I didn’t care and wasn’t going to see her again.

Finally, it was closing time. They decided that we would go to this other place which was apparently right down the street. They gave me its name, and as we walked, they proceeded to walk right past it. I told them we’d gone too far, and they kept walking. They eventually caught on and made it to the place. When that place was closed, they resolved to go home.

We ended up outside the original bar while she and her friend waited for the other friend to get his car. She attempted to sit on what she thought was a railing but was really just a plastic prop, and went crashing to the ground. She sat there, shocked at first, and then started to cry. She was screaming “I can’t let it end like this!” over and over, causing quite a stir among people on the sidewalk.

Finally, her friend brought his car around, and she refused to get in. She was now screaming and sobbing, “I can’t let it end like this!” over and over as her friends tried to get her in the car. They ended up lifting her bodily into the car and strapping her into the seat with the seatbelt as if she were a child. She was still sobbing and crying as the car drove off. I never saw her again.

Comments (31)
tronnerApril 19th, 2010 at 8:21 am

So even though the girl was clearly outside of your minimum height requirement you still went on a second date? Wow – how very gracious of you!

UnsightlyJelloApril 19th, 2010 at 8:28 am

I couldn’t understand a lot of this through the grammar and you’re that much of a stickler for height? Geez, the worst thing about this night is that this girl had a drunken birthday. Isn’t that supposed to be the new norm in this society?

zomboidApril 19th, 2010 at 8:28 am

well, she did lie about it.

zomboidApril 19th, 2010 at 8:31 am

Unsightly – what’s wrong with the grammar? If you had trouble understanding the above it’s your reading comprehension that’s the problem; the writing is perfectly clear.

karenApril 19th, 2010 at 8:50 am

well, lets see. she lied. and proceeded to get drunk and bring her friends along on the 2nd date? Isn’t that just a wee bit odd? I thought it looked fine to me. At least it wasn’t like a mashed up article. It was separated into easy to understand paragraphs.

tronnerApril 19th, 2010 at 9:07 am

Getting drunk on her birthday is odd? It’s probably a good thing her friends were there considering the OP didn’t bother to help her off the pavement when she fell.

And the whole “she lied” thing. Well, if she truly was 4’9″ and said she was 5’4″ that’s obviously off, but since he went out with her a second time it clearly wasn’t a deal breaker.

JaniceApril 19th, 2010 at 9:07 am

The “bad” dates that men have don’t hold a candle to the women’s.

tronnerApril 19th, 2010 at 10:02 am

@ Janice – lately it seems that’s the case. There seems to be a dearth of mens dates anyway.

gregApril 19th, 2010 at 10:28 am

If she was 4’9″ and you are 6′, if she has false teeth and was drunk she would be the PERFECT date, OMG man, rest your drink on her head whilst she hums on yours, you really missed out buddy. Also next time maybe don’t get your dates from the classified ads of a daycare. J/K about the no teeth thing, but is perfect height

rawrApril 19th, 2010 at 10:50 am

a) The height thing is lame. It’s lame that he has minimum requirements and it’s lame that she lied about it. But like tronner said, obviously it wasn’t that much of a deal breaker if he still went out with her anyway.
b) Bringing friends on a second date? Sounds like you’ve been friend zoned. Not saying it wasn’t rude and inconsiderate to spring them on him, though.
c) Ignoring the dude while talking to her friends is also inconsiderate, but not surprising considering the manner in which he was apparently friend-zoned.
d) Her behavior on the second date sounds like typical drunk behavior. This dude seems almost surprised that she behaved like a drunken spaz after drinking.

So all in all, this guy had a date that was rude/inconsiderate, drunk, and self-conscious about her height. Definitely not a good date, but this dude’s lucky if this was his “very worst.”

rawrApril 19th, 2010 at 10:53 am

P.S.

And as far as drunk behavior goes, it wasn’t even that bad. No puking, starting fights, or getting them kicked out of anywhere.

nineApril 19th, 2010 at 11:03 am

I was wondering if you just were mistaken about the second meeting. Maybe she was just asking you to come along to her birthday party and you thought it was a real date?

tronnerApril 19th, 2010 at 11:20 am

@ nineI got that impression as well. And a birthday party is sometimes all about the birthday girl – whether you want it to be or not. Sounds like the OP felt the 2nd outing was all about them but when he found out it was her night (wherever the communication error lay), he could very well have adjusted to that in stride.

UnsightlyJelloApril 19th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

Zomboid,
Have you ever heard of fragmented sentences? The above is riddled with them. However, if that level of grammar is above your understanding, it’s okay, because I generally don’t give shallow insults.

MeshellApril 19th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

Oh no, height requirements! Watch out! Someone short/tall is going to get offended and say that is it lame to know your preferences.

rawrApril 19th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

Oh, I get it Meshell. That’s very clever. How’s that working out for you?

rawrApril 19th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

@tronner and nine:

I was thinking that as well, but I wasn’t quite sure. Either way, a second meeting (official “date” or not) with other friends doesn’t really indicate she’s too interested in pursuing something romantic with the guy. So yeah.

MehaApril 19th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

I think that having a literal heighth requirement (are you a carnival ride?) may be verging on ridiculous, but speaking honestly, I do believe most people have a general idea of what they find attractive. Creating a checklist of required features is absurd and will only cut the list-maker off from potentially wonderful dates.

I once went on a few dates with a guy who was much shorter than me, and it just felt awkward. I’m not even that tall, but next to him I felt like an Amazon (but not really in a good way). Maybe if he’d had a better personality I wouldn’t have cared, but he didn’t bring ANYTHING to the table I could connect with, so I ended up focusing on the heighth difference. I felt gangly and gargantuan next to him, and I’m neither compared to most adults. If you feel unattractive when you are around someone you are on a date with – that may be a bad sign.

rawrApril 19th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

I agree with you about the general ideas of attractiveness and the checklist thing, Meha. It just seemed this dude was a little too hung up with the height thing, I’m guessing because of the second meeting going so crappily and her lying about her height. Apparently it wasn’t too big a deal after the first date if he agreed to go out with her a second time (I notice he says nothing about the conversation, good or bad); presumably it stuck out in his mind after the second date/birthday thing/hootenanny/whatever.

But then again, extreme height differences have never bothered me and don’t factor into the attractiveness thing for me at all. I personally find being put off by height differences on the same level is being put off by somebody’s second toe being longer than their big toe; it’s a thing for other people, but really minor for me. That’s why I roll my eyes a bit at people being awkwarded out by a really tall/short dates. I know it’s a thing for other people, but I automatically think “Why?”.

MaeApril 19th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

This is like a very very very long text message. lol

GApril 20th, 2010 at 7:35 am

Doesn’t everyone carry Emergency Pants?

zomboidApril 20th, 2010 at 8:28 am

unsightly – maybe you struggled to understand the narrative because you were hunting so desperately for a reason to comment on the grammar and show how educated you are.

PandaApril 20th, 2010 at 8:56 am

I agree with Meha. And it doesn’t sound like the OP had a rigid height requirement, really; he already thought she was going to be shorter than what he usually prefers. And as a lady that’s 6′ tall, I know height differences can be awkward. I’ve had a few friends under 5′ tall, and it’s really awkward just having a conversation while standing when the other person is over a foot shorter than you, let alone doing anything else.

UnsightlyJelloApril 20th, 2010 at 12:34 pm

Actually zomboid, I was commenting on the grammar since I felt it made the narrative confusing..which is what the point of being able to leave a comment is all about.

CJApril 20th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

@G- emergency pants! I love it!

Needless to say, I don’t feel the need to contribute to yet another internet dating lies/height debate.

NyanApril 20th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

Height requirements don’t seem ridiculous to me. I’d hate to date a super tall guy; I wouldn’t want to look like my date’s child and it strains my neck to have to constantly look way up to achieve eye contact, not to mention kissing while standing. I’m short at 5′ and my husband is 5’11″, and that’s enough of a difference for me. Any more would be really annoying.

YGApril 20th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

Height requirements aside, 4′ 9″ is pretty darned small, especially when the guy is 6′ ! I wonder, though, if that was her actual height, or was he just pulling a tiny-sounding number from the air to prove his point. Beyond all that, however, is the fact she lied about something in her profile.

My best friend is over six feet tall, and until she got married, she had a really hard time dating guys who didn’t constantly refer to her height. Seems like tall women bring out the worst of the Napoleon Complexes sometimes. Height tends to be a bigger deal that we’d like to admit.

NatalieApril 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am

As a woman, I can assure you that if she brought her friends with her on the second date, she just wasn’t that into you, m’dear.

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anneApril 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 pm

i really don’t understand why a guy would want a girl four inches or LESS shorter than him in height. as a girl, i personally think the taller the better as far as guys go. i’m 5’4″, which i consider somewhat tall (in my circles at least) for a woman, so if i could find a 6’4 guy, i’d be thrilled. don’t men want cute and delicate and tiny women?! anyways. that height consideration coming from a dude seems odd to me, but whatever. i understand having a preference, i just don’t get why his preference is for women closer to his height.

LuckyApril 26th, 2010 at 5:45 am

This lady sounds like a whackjob. but that’s nothing to do with her height! A minimum height requirement for dating is arbitrary, ridiculous, and frankly embarrassing. Newsflash: you’re really not tall, get over yourself.
I’m 4’11, my boyfriend is 6’4, and we have no problems at all.

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