International Date Line

A French major with an interest in Francophone North Africa, I somehow manage to find and date any and all available men from a small, North African country that most Americans can’t find on the map. I met X and after a month of dating I was beginning to think he was a keeper. The Sunday of the Gay Pride Parade, I went over to his apartment to meet up and walk to public transportation in order to show off one of the well known local traditions of my region that X expressed an interest in. He was in his pajamas Skype-ing friends back home, speaking a language I did not understand at all, occasionally looking at me and laughing. I sat around while he did this for an hour.

We finally arrived at the parade and met up with two of his friends from his country. Even though they spoke English fluently and I am fluent in French, they chose to speak over my head in their native Arabic dialect for three hours, with X only occasionally stopping to grab my hand or kiss me to demonstrate that he was heterosexual. Needless to say that when I ran into two good friends, I was relieved to have some company at long last after being linguistically excluded from the group I was with. However, this relief was short-lived because he and his friends became bored and wandered off, leaving me stranded in the middle of a giant crowd. Due to cell phone activity at the packed venue, it took 45 minutes to reconnect. I was furious. On the ride back, I found myself seated in-between the three boys, once again being talked over in Arabic. This did not change after I asked to swap seats with X because I did not enjoy being in the middle of a conversation I could not participate in. His response: “Why?”

We returned to his apartment to recoup before the second half of the date, a David Guetta concert with his friends that he got me a ticket for. When his friends came over, everyone spoke French except two other Americans so I struck up a conversation with one of them in order that he would have someone to talk to. X, who had been cold with me since I told him I did not appreciate being abandoned and ignored, became angry and informed me in French that he did not invite me over so that I could hang out with his friends. After some drinking, however, things seemed to smooth out and I was optimistic that the evening might go a little better.

Yet when we arrived at the venue, it became apparent that X had a lot more to drink than I had thought. In between yelling at his friends and picking fights with strangers, he put his hands everywhere on me on a very public dance floor. The final straw came when, while fighting his hands off, I noticed a rather trashy looking girl grinding on two large men. When I turned to X to comment on this absolutely hilarious display, I saw him reach in and grab the girl’s stomach roll because apparently, “she got [me] hot.” This in turn started a fight with the large men that I had to diffuse. After that I gave X a nasty look and wandered off to join his less inebriated, fun friends who were dancing without incident. He decided this was cold and unwarranted so to punish me, he started grinding on, making out with and getting numbers from various girls.

When I finally got him to leave the club after taking down one last final number, he still thought he had a chance to patch things up, stating that if we slept together, all of this would blow over. After I said that would never happen, he yelled at me for being possessive of a man who belongs to no one and acting like a girlfriend. I countered that I expect to be treated with respect by everyone I associate with. Two months after the fact, I am still getting texts from him asking me to join him at group events. I changed his name in my phone to Icky.

Comments (36)
ThandiJune 17th, 2010 at 8:07 am

I’m one of those people that used to hangon on a bad date so I totally understand why you didn’t end it sooner, while he skyping!

He sounds insensitive, and self centered. This tops my list as one of the worsts. Send him a reply to leave you alone and be harsh about it… or change your number.

ThandiJune 17th, 2010 at 8:10 am

P.S. eew! you let him kiss you! haha

jokerJune 17th, 2010 at 8:14 am

Tunisia, right?
I guess assholes come from everywhere.

The Village PeopleJune 17th, 2010 at 9:58 am

Macho Macho Man

hellcatJune 17th, 2010 at 10:02 am

Algeria?

What a dooshbag.

naenadJune 17th, 2010 at 11:09 am

wow! How do you read this? It physically hurt my eyes and brain to make sense out of this language wreck, and I have not even finish the story yet. I would appreciate if admin take little liberties and make it legible.

adminJune 17th, 2010 at 11:44 am

We actually think it’s one of the better written posts on the site and is certainly not a “language wreck.” If you’d like to edit it we’d be happy to take a look.

buffyJune 17th, 2010 at 1:06 pm

Sorry, but I had some problems reading it too. There were some sentences that were pretty awkward and I had to read through them 2 or 3 times to understand what was being said.

That aside, WOW, what an a-hole. And possibly an in-the-closet a-hole, at that.

naenadJune 17th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

I would have to understand it first before I edit to make it clear. She used many nice words but her phrasing is awkward, for example:
“A French major with an interest in Francophone North Africa, I somehow manage to find and date any and all available men from a small, North African country that most American’s can’t find on the map”
huh?!
I took up your challenge and actually finished the story. I found that apart from those two sentences the whole story was comprehensible, not stellar grammatically but still not wreck like that first sentence.

naenadJune 17th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

I would like to add in my last comment that by no means I am perfect in English grammar. English is not even my first language. My point was that it was hard to understand with long and awkward phrasing.

LaurenJune 17th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

I am the girl that somehow stuck through this all-day catastrophe! Sorry if the phrasing is a bit long. I wrote it days after turning in a thesis so I guess complicated and convoluted describe my writing style at that point in my life. As for the country, Tunisia is the correct guess. I am sure most Tunisian men are lovely but I managed to find three interesting characters that have resulted in my friends putting a moratorium on me dating anyone with that nationality!

tronnerJune 17th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

Lauren: I liked your story – I could pretty much picture the guy doing his various misdeeds and that’s a hard thing to get across sometimes. I think people try too much to recreate dialogue when describing the scene does so much more.

And I completely understand how phrasing can get long when you write all day. Half the time I feel like ending a comment with ” …and if you have any questions about this matter please do not hesitate to contact me.”

BettyJune 17th, 2010 at 4:33 pm

Lauren~
I worked as an English tutor while in college, and have taught ESL classes as well. In my opinion, your story was well-written, concise, and grammatically correct; no revisions are needed.
Also, you are amazingly patient, or simply optimistic, to have stayed on this date as long as you did. A lesser woman might have escaped the moment his back was turned!

Frau BlucherJune 17th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

or a woman of lesser patience. I would have been out of there long before the three hours of arabic conversation was over.

ZakJune 18th, 2010 at 3:03 am

I live in England, and I have some Polish friends… It’s amazing how often they will speak Polish to each other when I’m there, even though I don’t speak that language, and we all speak English. If I complain, they just say they’re not talking about anything I need to hear.

I guess lots of people just like speaking in their favourite language, and aren’t too worried about including others.

JennyJamesJune 18th, 2010 at 6:01 am

@Zak yeah it’s true, I can kind of understand in situations where the person rarely has an opportunity to speak in their native language or has only a shaky grasp of the common language. Although I have some German friends who are so great about speaking English, even when I’m the only non German speaker they’ll instantly switch to English the second I’m within earshot. Anyway sorry off topic, that Guy sounds awful, I can totally understand not finishing it earlier, I always used to do that just in the interest of avoiding a scene.

TMSJune 18th, 2010 at 6:02 am

Well this guy certainly qualifies as a grade A Jackass. Not only were they excluding her from the conversation, they were doing so in a language she didn’t even speak (and during the Skype conversation since he kept looking at her and laughing, it’s not hard to think that maybe they were talking about her). Even after his reprehensible behavior at the concert I almost had to laugh at the fact that he thought sleeping with her would make everything else “blow over”. I can see why she changed his name in her phone. So she would know not to answer when he calls.

JayJune 18th, 2010 at 7:20 am

Well, it was definitely unclear at the start (I thought you were in Africa…). The real problem is that you stayed with the guy for so long! :)

AmyJune 18th, 2010 at 10:33 am

EW! What a creep! Blech.

And for the record, I didn’t have any issues understanding the post either. Sure, there could have been a run-on phrase or something somewhere, but geez – talk about nitpickery. This is a fun blog about disaster dates, not a PhD thesis on psychology.

l.d.June 18th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

@Jay: Francophone North Africa = Africa

jokerJune 18th, 2010 at 1:06 pm

“A French major with an interest in Francophone North Africa, I somehow manage to find and date any and all available men from a small, North African country that most Americans can’t find on the map”
This is an incomprehensible run on sentence.

Try:

“I am a French major with an interest in Francophone North Africa. I somehow manage to find and date any and all available men from a small, North African country that most Americans can’t find on the map.”

Much better.

MaryJune 18th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

My fave part of the story is the last sentence.

JJJune 18th, 2010 at 1:20 pm

“I changed his name in my phone to Icky.”

Funniest part of the whole story!

tronnerJune 18th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

You need to hyphenate “run-on.”

ClaireJune 18th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

Oh no! Sentence variation!

Lauren, please do not dumb down your writing for anyone. The sentence in question that was rewritten by joker is not grammatically incorrect, nor is it a garden-path sentence. Joker’s edit takes away your stylistic choice. Your writing was easy to get through, and if someone had trouble with it, it’s them.

Further, please enjoy the irony that the writer of “It physically hurt my eyes and brain to make sense out of this language wreck, and I have not even finish the story yet.” criticized YOUR English. (And, naenad, maybe you shouldn’t be such an asshole when you’re clearly not an English literary scholar yourself).

ClaireJune 18th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

http://www.myenglishteacher.net/runonsentences.html

http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/fragments.html

As far as run-ons, maybe we all need to go back to the basics. Joker, perhaps it would help you to realize that the beginning of that sentence is read as such: “As a senator, I did xyz.” which can be rewritten as “I, as a senator, did xyz.”

Don’t call things incomprehensible. Trolling is cute when you’re 10. Are you 10? If so, it might explain your misuse of “incomprehensible” and “run-on.”

me the originalJune 19th, 2010 at 2:23 am

wow, this story resonates with so much of my early college experience! i was going to guess tunisia or morocco. also, was this in the bay area? big arab community here, and well obviously pride is gigantic. but yeah, i too enjoy the north african men. unfortunately not as much now, as i kept stumbling over the fact that…well, lets just say, we had different views on gender relations? also, can we be friends? somehow i think we’d get along..

LaurenJune 19th, 2010 at 3:01 am

Thanks Claire! I think that the problem is more with my love of adjectives and descriptors. Take the same phrase, keep the more interesting syntax, and remove some superfluous words et voila: “A French major with an interest in Francophone North Africa, I often find myself dating men from a small, North African country that most Americans can’t find on the map.” Ah, the hindsight that a year between the bad date and the posting brings to the editing process!

As for my epic (and stupid) patience, it was more my love of Gay Pride and David Guetta that kept me from running away. That and the fact that I left my car keys and overnight bag in his apartment. So many lessons learned.

XandrayaJune 19th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

When I hang out with my undergrad friends, we can get into engineering language pretty easily. (Coincidentally, we tell a lot of lame jokes.) However, we try to keep our engineering nerdiness in check when non-engineers are around – but it also helps that we’re not arrogant assholes who are trying to show off how we can speak a different language (per se).

The average reading level in America is like what, 2nd grade? Like Claire and some others said, you don’t have to dumb down your writing style – some people need to learn how to read. If you wanna talk about difficult, let’s discuss Chaucer; if not, I don’t wanna hear any whining! Unfortunately, that seems to be all some people can do around here – since they couldn’t tear apart your story, they attempted to nitpick your writing style. *shakes head*

That’s the worst! I’ve heard nothing but horror stories, so I /never/ leave anything at a guy’s house! I also try to avoid having them drive so I can abandon ship whenever I need to!

BloodyNeptuneJune 21st, 2010 at 11:52 pm

xD I read the whole story fine, and found it hilarious. I don’t understand people who can stop and actually notice a missing dot or dash.
If you understood that she’s a French major, is interested in Africa, and has a tendency to end up dating guys from a very small country, then who cares that it wasn’t delivered to you in the exact and proper manner you hoped. You got the point, finish the story.

geialgJune 22nd, 2010 at 1:58 am

For me, the worst part of this story is when the poster’s date tries the line “if we slept together, all of this would blow over”. That just makes my skin crawl.

TomJune 22nd, 2010 at 7:46 am

@naenad; the grammatical errors and unidiomatic English in your comments make it obvious enough that you’re not a native speaker. What do you think gives you the right to criticise this (well-written) post? I’d never dream of correcting a piece written in your language, no matter how good at it I thought I was.

JokerJune 22nd, 2010 at 10:45 am

A person with an interest in grammar as well as in pragmatics, I think that the term “run-on sentence” is often used to denote a sentence that needlessly contains more than one complete idea, therefore a sentence that contains an idea about a speaker being a French major, and an idea about dating all men from a small African country, and an idea about inability of Americans to find said country on a map can be rightfully considered both “run-on” and difficult for most readers to comprehend.

DanaJune 25th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

I speak five languages and consider it incredibly rude in virtually all cases to speak a language that isn’t common to everyone in the group. Certainly, it can sometimes be tempting to use a particular language to express a concept that it expresses more eloquently than other languages, but anything more than a short phrase (with an explanation for those not “in the know”) is really rude to everyone. That said, different cultures also have radically different norms about communication and etiquette. I don’t know much about francophone Africa or Tunisian culture, though, so I can’t speak to that.

DirkJuly 3rd, 2010 at 2:52 am

As far as localized fetishes go, North Africa is truly weird – especially if you are a woman. Seek professional help.

SallyJanuary 18th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

I was confused for a while because the lack of pronouns concerning the author led me to believe the author was gay when they were going to a gay pride parade. Which I was impressed with because I wasn’t left with an impression that North African countries let alone any African countries were ok with openly gay people. Then “she?” dropped something about kissing her to prove he was a heterosexual. So I agree with the other posts commenting that the story was a little hard to follow.
And a little side note for the “Admin.” I love your site but your defensive of editing these posts is a little much since I’ve read quite a few that have horrible and obvious spelling mistakes.

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