The Nice Girl’s Fault

This Very Worst Date is my own damn fault. Being a wide-eyed, incredibly naive 23-year-old lands you in some dumb situations.

It (MVWD) happens after a hard break-up. Internet dating exists but hadn’t really taken off and besides, the profile business is way unromantic, right?  So I post it on Craigslist.  Mistake #1.

There are some crazy people on Craigslist. There are also (at the time) no picture capabilities. And so, it turns out, that attracts a certain type of demographic.

But that’s foreshadowing. Rewind to the emails I start to receive, some of which seem pretty promising! Intelligent and articulate professionals.  One guy is a lawyer at a good firm, and I set up a date to meet him. I don’t think to ask for a picture, or for details, because in my la-la-land head, the person on the other side of this email exchange must look…like me, right?  Normal. Maybe even kinda cute. Mistake #2.

The guy who turns up is built like an Oompa Loompa, with a face to match. He is 5 inches shorter than me and I’m 5’2. It’s like someone has set me up on a cruel gag blind date–except that cruel person is me.

But I am nice. So nice, I go through with the whole dinner date and politely laugh at jokes and then politely thank him when I leave because dang, it’s not his fault he’s only-a-mother-could-love ugly, right? Mistake #3.

My plan, though, is that when he tries to set up a second date I’ll tell him nope, sayonara. Nicely. Mistake #4.

Sure enough he calls, and I say thanks but no thanks. He asks why.  I cannot tell him the reason, so I make up anything. Everything that comes to mind. At some point I remember b.s.ing that our, uh, personalities are too much alike! You know, Type A personalities, and I’m looking for Type B…

I spend an hour on the phone explaining in every possible way I can think of that doesn’t include the words “hideous” or “ugly” that I will not date him. I get off the phone when I think he has finally accepted his fate.

Of course he calls back a few days later. I spend 20 minutes turning him down.

And then he calls again a week later. I am getting mad. But he protests that the date went so well! He’s never had a date that went so well!  That must mean something!

(At this point, ladies, I have to tell you that if you haven’t already done so, please read Gavin de Becker’s The Gift of Fear, especially the chapter on why not to let a guy down nicely.)

Long story short: I dodge periodic phone calls from him for, oh, just under a year. Despite the fact that I’ve learned (when I do accidentally pick up the phone) to cut him off and hang up. Despite the fact that every time he calls, I grow increasingly hostile and irate out of sheer fear. I feel stalked and I have nightmares that he will simply show up at some stalker-like place waiting for me.

But at no point do I say “ugly,” or “short.” Nor do I ever tell him the other thing I’m thinking, which is how embarrassed I am to have been such a dumb-ass, and sorry that I got us both into this mess.

Comments (38)
KarenJuly 5th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

I love this blog any day, but this story is my favorite so far by miles. Nice Girl, the world needs writers writing and thinking the way you do!

popJuly 6th, 2010 at 2:48 am

“i just got back with my ex.”
i don’t know… this all sounds a bit douchy to me…

DuncanJuly 6th, 2010 at 7:02 am

With the possible exception of what you’ve labeled as ‘mistake 1′, I don’t think you did anything wrong here. I have a hard time accepting that it would have been better had you been rude to him or (worse!) led him on by accepting a second date. Don’t beat yourself up about it. As for the stalking if he persists after you make it clear that it’s unwelcome you can and should get the police involved.

Out of interest what’s the argument in de Becker that you shouldn’t let someone down easy?

@pop – What are you quoting?

BeccaJuly 6th, 2010 at 7:08 am

It sounds like the actual date didn’t go bad at all. The poor guy probably gets rejected everytime someone sees him. It makes sense that he would try and persue you, the one girl who was decent to him, despite his looks. I feel bad for the guy, not you.

LisaJuly 6th, 2010 at 7:34 am

From your description, he doesn’t sound like a stalking maniac– just persistent, since you only offered vague, arguable reasons (“we’re too much alike”?!) for not seeing him again. Persistence is usually considered an admirable trait in men, regardless of their sex appeal. Seems ungenerous to fault him for that.

But, I don’t mean to hector you on your mistakes– you seem well aware of them already.

tronnerJuly 6th, 2010 at 9:09 am

“Built like an Oompah Loompa with a face to match?” So he’s 4’9″ and looks like a dwarf? Gosh, maybe he IS one? I’m not saying you should be immediately attracted and let go your notions of “tall, dark and handsome” just because the guy has achondroplasia. But it doesn’t really get me on your side when you poke fun of how short and, in your words “only-a-mother-could-love-ugly” he is when (unless you’re exaggerating for comic effect) it isn’t really his fault.

And you have valid points about the stalking, and even if it wasn’t it still is creepy and upsetting and just plain “yick” to be called time and time again. That’s bad, that makes it a very-worst-something. Just don’t pick on the dude’s genetics.

PistachioJuly 6th, 2010 at 9:24 am

You could have said you didn’t feel any “chemistry”!

ZakJuly 6th, 2010 at 9:41 am

Is there any way for a date to be good when the guy turns out to be short and ugly? Where are the girls who will enjoy a guy purely for their personality?

Do the short and ugly guys ever have a ‘good date’?

PandaJuly 6th, 2010 at 10:03 am

I like this story because it sounds like something that could easily happen to me. Not that I’m the nicest person in the world or anything, but I’m just horrible at rejecting people (I usually just go for the avoidance tactic). Luckily, I’ve never encountered someone this persistent. Kudos to you for learning from mistakes!

AndrewJuly 6th, 2010 at 10:52 am

I feel bad for the guy. He’s probably had a hard life because of his appearance. Hopefully everything worked out for him.

RandiJuly 6th, 2010 at 11:41 am

I think you…are ME! I swear, I have suffered this same problem SO many times, because I am too kind in person. And for the record, tronner, I think the short and ugly description was crucial to the story. It’s not like he’s gonna READ this. Everyone knows dwarves can’t read.

(too kind *in person*.)

MaryJuly 6th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

Andrew, will you marry me! ;P

tronnerJuly 6th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

May have been – was just mean-spirited. Shows lack of class of the OP and the site for publishing it.

HeatherJuly 6th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

What a stupid story. Am I supposed to feel sorry for this person because she’s shallow and spineless? Okay, so you can’t think of a good excuse, have the brains to tell the guy to leave you alone instead of dealing with him for a year. Obviously he wasn’t getting your shitty hints, you should’ve flat out said it won’t work out.

AndrewJuly 6th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

Mary, I would be glad to marry you.

adminJuly 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

@tronner – We’re sorry you found this story offensive. Since we’ve started the MyVeryWorst.com blogs, we’ve learnt that we can’t please all people, all the time. However, we will say that we think that the OP was using language for comic relief.

@Mary and Andrew – Please let us know if you guys get together. We’re waiting for a great date (or more) to happen out of this site.

Gwen_July 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

I agree with Heather. It’s not the guy’s fault he’s not the most attractive. You can’t blame him for being persistent if the date went well.

CJJuly 6th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

Eh, the daters language about her date’s attractiveness made her less sympathetic. It’s really not the guy’s fault if he’s short and bad-looking, AND he didn’t misrepresent himself. The crazy persistence *alone* would have made it a terrible dating experience for me; the needless cruelty was just unkind.

LisaJuly 6th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

(At this point, ladies, I have to tell you that if you haven’t already done so, please read Edmond Rostand’s Cyrano De Bergerac. Or, maybe Victor Hugo’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame.)

tronnerJuly 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

@admins – I think the only thing that set me off was the Oompa Loompa comment. I felt the OP was revolted the guy had a specific genetic abnormality and I found it sort of in bad taste – that’s all.

Frau BlucherJuly 6th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

i read the Gavin de Becker book and it was interesting…although this case isn’t quite the same as a dangerous stalker. Too often women want to be ‘nice’ and not hurt someone’s feelings, even when he’s the one being rude, creepy, intrusive, dangerous, etc….as long as you’re ‘nice’, they interpret that as meaning ‘there’s always hope I can change her mind.’ If being nice doesn’t work you have to just be really firm and say NO and do not answer the phone, do not answer emails,cut of all contact….I recommend this book for any woman….

ThandiJuly 6th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

my heart also goes out to the poor guy, sending thoughts amd well wishes his way that he’ll find somebody, besides his mother, who’ll love him.

It’s sad for the OP too, I get why she’s being too polite- it’s not his fault he looks the way he looks and she can’t tell him that. Good for her for being that nice girl, but sad that he’s persistent!

pixeldollJuly 7th, 2010 at 1:21 am

Oh, yeesh. I’m sorry, guys, but I’m going to have to yell at you all for a second. She, quite simply, was NOT attracted to the guy– it’s hardly her fault. What was she supposed to do, sleep with him JUST to be nice? She wasn’t interested. Sure, she might compare him to an Oompa Loompa in her post; I’m sure she was joking around. However, she let him down as gently and politely as she could. Would you all rather she had said, “Sorry, I find you extremely unattractive”? I think she handled the situation to the best of her ability.

popJuly 7th, 2010 at 3:44 am

@Duncan – sorry for not being clear but at the time of commenting was distracted and had to make it short.

“i just got back with my ex.” was referring to a good excuse that could end the pursuing. if you got back with your ex, he (the poor guy) wouldn’t continue to insist right?

but all and all i was glad to realize that i wasn’t the only one being ticked off by the OP. sure it’s very well written but she made herself “such a nice girl” one time too many and became just douche to me.

MaggieJuly 7th, 2010 at 4:05 am

I have to admit, this one annoyed me, too. The only thing wrong with the guy was that she didn’t find him attractive? It doesn’t sound like he was obnoxious, or cruel, or mean. I understand that we don’t all live in an Apatow movie, where the dweeby guys get the hot chicks, but I would be embarrassed to admit I was this shallow.

(And while I agree that this one is better written than many others, I still am always thrown by the mistakes in these stories. Admins, you say that you edit for grammar and spelling, but sometimes you miss a lot. Take the first line here: “This is Very Worst Date is my own damn fault.” There is an extra “is” in there. It should be: “This Very Worst Date is my own damn fault.”)

PandaJuly 7th, 2010 at 9:22 am

@pixie doll: EXACTLY. If you simply aren’t attracted to someone, no amount of pretending to the contrary is going to change that.

oyvehJuly 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am

“(At this point, ladies, I have to tell you that if you haven’t already done so, please read Gavin de Becker’s The Gift of Fear, especially the chapter on why not to let a guy down nicely.)”

Word to that. All women should read this book. DeBecker is the rare man who ‘gets it’.

DuncanJuly 7th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

@Frau Blucher – Fair enough, but I don’t think the OP was making that mistake here. It sounds as if she’s giving him a rather firm ‘no’. I’ve had girls in the past who weren’t interested respond ‘I’m really busy then; I’d love to but it’s just impossible’. Now, while you begin to get the hint if someone does this to you three or four times, the world would be a better place if there were more people like the OP around being diplomatically honest.

adminJuly 8th, 2010 at 7:26 am

@ Maggie – We do miss things sometimes as you pointed out in your comment. We’d love to lavish much more attention on the blog but alas we also have to tend to those pesky paid gigs. Clearly, we need help. Editorial intern. Unpaid. Interested?

mayflyJuly 8th, 2010 at 10:43 am

Are you guys seriously coming down on this girl because she didn’t want to date a guy she found unattractive? I guess you wanted her to pity-date him?

And a guy who refuses to take “no” for an answer isn’t sweetly persistent, he’s a creep who refuses to respect boundaries.

tronnerJuly 8th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

No one is coming down on the girl because she didn’t find him attractive. Who cares how unattractive he was – it doesn’t matter, right? Attraction is what it is. If there wasn’t a spark there wasn’t a spark and no one is faulting her for that.

My issue is that she’s acting like a spoiled little princess in complaining. She demeaned the guy over and over and over again, and I started caring less and less about her highness, and more about the guy that she maligned. Furthermore, she states her height at 5’2″ and that he was 5 inches less – 4’9″. That’s obviously medically significant – and for her to find such glee in how odd he looked set me off. He’s not a circus freak – she treated him like one. That’s my issue.

blechJuly 9th, 2010 at 2:29 pm

“He’s not a circus freak – she treated him like one. ”

I don’t see anything in the article that would indicate that. I think you are being hyper-sensitive. The opinions in the story are completely different from the way she indicated that she acted while around him, which is what got her into her situation. Unless your trolling..in which case..Troll on…

tronnerJuly 9th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

She called him an oompa loompa – she called him “only-a-mother-could-love ugly”, referred to him as “hideous” Clearly you need to work on your reading comprehension.

tronnerJuly 9th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

I realize there is a marked difference to how the OP acted around the guy and how she maligns the guy in the post. But to make fun of a guy that much for something he’s not exactly in control of, speaks more to her character than the charade she managed to put on around him.

Obviously, this one ticked me off a great deal as evidenced by the grammar and tone of my last post. I just think it is sad that she felt the need to describe another human being like she did.

MysteryGuestJuly 10th, 2010 at 1:22 am

Seems to me that the poster was letting off a little steam after a year of too-much-niceness. I’m inclined to let her slide on that.

I too feel a bit for the guy in the story. That’s a hard row to hoe, but not an impossible one.

anonJuly 14th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

I find it totally ridiculous that people are picking on the writer for not finding this guy attractive. She has to like him because he has a great personality? Uh no. People should not have to date people based on personality alone to avoid being called shallow. I’m sure that most of the people on here who are blasting the writer would do the exact same thing in the same situation.

KateJuly 20th, 2010 at 1:20 am

I know I’m gonna get called out on this one, but I want to put it out there anyway. I think that a) Many of the people freaking out about the op’s word choices are overly sensitive because THEY’VE been mistreated in some way because of their looks and b) the op’s characterization and description of the guy come AFTER her experience with him. It could be that had he behaved in a more gentlemanly fashion, she would have fallen madly in love with him or at least thought fondly of their date. @Mayfly got it right. There comes a point when persistence becomes obsession or creepiness and as a woman, I can truthfully say that this is something that is profoundly scary for us. Sure he might have been a nice guy, but one, two, six, TWELVE months of calls later does nothing to promote a good impression of him.

You cannot excuse a person for behaving badly because they may have “had a hard time” of things. That can certainly contribute to a person having hang-ups and goodness knows we all have flaws, but character comes from how one responds to such problems. Harassing and pressuring a young girl, however nicely, is not positive behavior. And on a completely shallow note, this site was intended for humor and to provide some kind of therapy for those of us unlucky enough to have “Very Worst Dates”. Why can’t we just vent the way we would face to face if we were all friends. Sure, the op was turned off but we’ve all shared her feelings at one point or another and discussed them exactly as she posted them. At least she went through with the date. If I met with someone who had misrepresented himself or been anywhere near as off-putting as this man was, I’m not sure I would have done the same. Because I am human, with many faults I will readily own.

AzuriteMay 3rd, 2011 at 9:19 am

And so what if the first thought which came to her mind was “oompa loompa”, when she saw him?
Is it bad character to recognize what’s true?

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