An Accidental MVWD

I had just broken up with a suicidal drug dealer who continually compared me to his ex-girlfriend, when I accidentally ended up on MVWD. R was my ex’s best friend, who had just spent the past month stalking said best friend, and sending her countless text messages at all hours. He even wanted to stay in Boston after his graduation so that they could be near each other. She told him it was not going to work out and that she would not be attending his fraternity’s semi-formal with him.

Since R seemed so disappointed after being rejected by my friend, I offered to stand in as his date for the semi-formal. I figured that we could go as friends and that his needing a date was more important than my distaste for fraternities in general. When R picked me up at the door he stared me up and down, then made a comment about blue Betsey Johnson dresses being sung about in rap songs. He then pointed at my face and said “I like the way your uh, you know, matches your dress.” Despite the fact that I’d never wear blue eyeshadow, and I certainly wasn’t wearing any at the moment, I thanked him and we moved on.

When we got to the frat house, R made me a drink and then quickly had three himself. He told me repeatedly how glad he was that he was getting drunk already, since alcoholism used to be a problem of his. Afterward, we ended up on the porch, smoking cigarettes where R told me that he didn’t like the way I treated men and then talked endlessly about an ex-girlfriend of his. Apparently I reminded him of her and he had only tried to date my friend because he thought she’d be like me, and therefore like his ex-girlfriend. Not knowing how to respond, I chainsmoked four cigarettes and hoped desperately that he’d stop talking. On the way back inside, he tried to put his arm around my waist. I quickly removed it and he apologized profusely.

Inside, we sat around a table in a room with some people who were smoking a bowl. Everyone was chatting pretty normally until R said, “My eye is twitching. Can you see it?” I told him that I couldn’t tell, and to just relax but he kept getting in my face saying, “Just look at it. Can you see it? Right there. It’s twitching!” After about 10 minutes of this, he got up suddenly and ran off. I texted him repeatedly asking if he was alright and he responded, “No.” He wouldn’t take any of my calls and I ended up calling my ex to ask if R had run off and was with him. I was just told to “go home” and “get out of there.” He refused to say anything else.

Immediately after the call, R came out of a door right down the hallway. He triumphantly told me that he’d just puked in a box which had holes in it. He hadn’t known about the holes, but he figured someone else would clean it up later. He kept repeating about how glad he was that alcohol could make him vomit now. I told R that since he was sick, I figured that we should just go home. He agreed, told me that we had had a great time and should do it again, then left me to find my own way back to my dorm at 2 a.m. Suffice it to say, I am never stepping into a frat house again, no matter how sorry I feel for someone.

Comments (35)
blahAugust 31st, 2010 at 5:21 am

lol what a catch. frats r full o’ em

YGAugust 31st, 2010 at 5:36 am

And THEN you realised it was a bad date?? How’s that higher education working out for you? Your own brain was ignoring all the red flags, and your ex even told you to “get out of there”…and yet you stayed through barfing in a holey box.

There should be a special tags for “Gluttons for Punishment”…

AndrewAugust 31st, 2010 at 6:26 am

So irresponsible, this smoking of the cigarettes…

See! I can nitpick the most inane parts of the story, too. Just like other commenter’s.

But seriously? You definitely got yourself into that pickle yourself. You saw how he was with your friend, & while it was noble of you to try to help him out…just no.

Which is easy for me to say, having not been put in that situation. I probably would have done it, too. Seeing people hurt sucks.

JayAugust 31st, 2010 at 6:32 am

Date threw up.

Not sure how most of the other stuff (just broke up with suicidal boyfriend, etc.) is relevent.. Kinda rambled.

KellyAugust 31st, 2010 at 7:05 am

Why on earth would you agree to go on a date with a guy that has spent the past month “stalking” your best friend?

LisaAugust 31st, 2010 at 7:18 am

I unconsciously cast Jason Segal as “R” by the end of the second paragraph, I’ve clearly been watching too many reruns of Freaks & Geeks.

Doesn’t seem like a notably bad date… but it may only be because of my crush on Jason Segal, in all fairness.

JeffAugust 31st, 2010 at 8:12 am

There is nothing in your story to indicate that anyone else at the party was behaving badly except your date, yet you place blame on the “frat house”? That’s about as logical as if they guys who had to clean up your date’s puke said, “That’s the last time we let a girl ina blue dress into our frat house.”

rawrAugust 31st, 2010 at 8:16 am

@YG: This is why cool kids go to universities that don’t have sororities or fraternities.

MargaretAugust 31st, 2010 at 8:29 am

“I had just broken up with a suicidal drug dealer who continually compared me to his ex-girlfriend, when I accidentally ended up on MVWD.”

Somehow you had “good” dates with the previous guy?

karenAugust 31st, 2010 at 8:32 am

just say “no”. noble is good and all but if you smell a rat its away you go. better to be @ home alone than be with a jerk.

YGAugust 31st, 2010 at 8:45 am

@rawr: Amen and amen. I have a family member who is an example of what happens when an Frat Boy marries a Sorority Queen. It doesn’t end well. In fact, it never ends.

To me, a very bad date is something that is comprised of circumstances beyond one’s control, not things that could be avoided. I imagine the OP has low self-esteem and was just happy to have a night out, is a freshman, or is so used to someone looking out for her that she can’t make decisions for herself. I’m glad it didn’t end in something far worse…many unsuspecting freshman girls have made starry-eyed by a frat party invite to have it end in something horrific.

PanquakeAugust 31st, 2010 at 9:49 am

Admittedly, I am hungover this morning. However, I still can’t make sense of all the pronouns in the first paragraph: “R was my ex’s best friend, who had just spent the past month stalking said best friend, and sending her countless text messages at all hours. He even wanted to stay in Boston after his graduation so that they could be near each other.” Wait, huh? Your ex’s BF was stalking him, or he was stalking his BF? Is the BF male or female? And wtf does it have to do with anything, anyway?

This “story” is nothing but irrelevant meandering; all I can figure from it is that you got high with a bunch of losers, and gasp! They acted like losers! Totally didn’t see that one coming, did you?

Better editing next time, MVWD. This story was a nightmare to attempt to read.

ThandiAugust 31st, 2010 at 10:13 am

panquake I also had a VERY DIFFICULT TIME reading this o_0 I caught up on what was happening from the comments:

Anyway, OP, it was a bad date indeed but (IMHO) it shouldn’t have happened. There’s this new thing called loyalty that should keep you away from your friends exes. The person you should have been concerned about is your “best friend” not her stalker ex…

ThandiAugust 31st, 2010 at 10:19 am

… hang on… I just read it again, he never dated your friend right, he just liked her? I’m confused

tofupuppyAugust 31st, 2010 at 10:30 am

Yeah it took me a while but I’m pretty sure that was supposed to be “R was my best friend’s ex” rather than “R was my ex’s best friend.” Even if that’s not what it was supposed to be, the story makes way more sense that way.

iLLogicaLAugust 31st, 2010 at 10:56 am

Agreed this story is difficult to read. Is that okay to say, moderators?

buffyAugust 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm

I agree with panquake and Thandi–this was extremely confusing.

TMSAugust 31st, 2010 at 12:16 pm

Gotta agree with Thandi here, if some loony (or ex-boy/girlfriend) is stalking your best friend, concentrate more on your friend instead of feeling sorry for the creepy stalker, and for crying out loud, don’t go out with them!

EGAugust 31st, 2010 at 3:27 pm

I’m still confused by this story. It was her ex’s best friend who was dating her best friend?

Is that it? Regardless, both of them were to blame here. Left me thinking “meh” when I finished reading it.

LAugust 31st, 2010 at 3:50 pm

I read it that R was the suicidal drug dealer’s best friend (remember she called the ex to see if R was with him) and since OP’s best friend didn’t like him, OP felt sorry for him. Why?! Maybe she needs to do a little soul searching regarding why she chooses what she chooses. Agree w/those that say think more about your “best” friend than any of those weirdos.

TronnerAugust 31st, 2010 at 3:55 pm

@ Lisa – I can see the Jason Segal for R, not sure why I thought of Lizzy Kaplan for the OP.

TronnerAugust 31st, 2010 at 3:58 pm

The biggest question I had was the cryptic comments from her ex, when she texted him about R’s behavior. “Get out of there” “Go home” – was he about to turn into a werewolf?

smallsAugust 31st, 2010 at 4:18 pm

Agree with panquake that the whole set up makes no sense at all–who’s best friend’s ex? Who was he stalking??

And…why on earth did this person set themselves up for date failure in such a glaringly obvious way???

oiAugust 31st, 2010 at 4:23 pm

You know when the first line is “I had just broken up with a suicidal drug dealer who continuallyI had just broken up with a suicidal drug dealer who continually compared me to his ex-girlfriend, when I accidentally ended up on MVWD. R was my ex’s best friend, who had just spent the past month stalking said best friend, and sending her countless text messages at all hours.” You know it is going to be bad, really bad, you just feel sorry for the OP even without reading further, at that the same time you are really excited expecting a thrilling, stomach churning, breath taking ride. You go half way through and your excitement starts to wear off and you read, “Inside, we sat around a table in a room with some people who were smoking a bowl” and you are like may be this, not so exciting, background was necessary just like a roller coaster ride need to go up high in the sky before plunging sown. So your excitement is off the chart agian and you read through end.
What you come to know it was just a weird date with drunk guy running out and throwing up, mind here, not on OP, not in the room but outside in a stray box. then leaves OP alone instead of stalking you even for a night!
You are like, whoa! where am I? Somebody pinch me please.

TanekAugust 31st, 2010 at 4:36 pm

Alright, I guess I’ll be the one to call out the obvious: How the HELL is this an accidental date? It was YOUR idea!

oiAugust 31st, 2010 at 4:39 pm

man all the typos… I wish I could edit my comment anyway, same comment without typos.. I hope.

When the first line is “I had just broken up with a suicidal drug dealer who continually compared me to his ex-girlfriend, when I accidentally ended up on MVWD. R was my ex’s best friend, who had just spent the past month stalking said best friend, and sending her countless text messages at all hours.” you know it is going to be bad, really bad, you just feel sorry for the OP even without reading further, at that the same time you are really excited expecting a thrilling, stomach churning, breath taking ride. You go half way through and your excitement starts to wear off and you read, “Inside, we sat around a table in a room with some people who were smoking a bowl” and you are like may be this, not so exciting, background was necessary. Just like a roller coaster ride needs to go up high in the sky before plunging down. So your excitement is off the chart again and you read through the end.
You are in dazed haze, You can’t believe what was transpired here! You are like, whoa! where am I? Somebody pinch me please!
Then you recover and realized it was just a weird date with drunk guy running out and throwing up, mind here, not on OP, not in the room but outside in a stray box. then leaves OP alone instead of stalking you even for a night!

pkAugust 31st, 2010 at 6:58 pm

Though I’m confused about the wording like everyone else, I will assume that this was your suicidal, drug-dealer ex’s friend who was stalking your best friend after dating her. So of course you decided to go on a date with him??? What? Sorry OP, but anyone who dates the friend of a crazy-sounding ex who is stalking YOUR best friend, needs help…

VTAugust 31st, 2010 at 7:26 pm

Is OP bi, maybe? I don’t think this makes sense even with that, though.

ClaireAugust 31st, 2010 at 7:27 pm

Yeah, usually it irritates me to high heaven when people are dbags to the OP, but I’m on Team Mob this time. It wasn’t “accidental.” You offered. You knew this was going to be a bad idea. It was a bad date, but I wish there was more personal responsibility acknowledged along the way.

As a personal comment – purge your ENTIRE FRIEND AND ACQUAINTANCE INVENTORY. Suicidal drug dealer? Stalker? Jesus fucking Christ, I hope you don’t think this is a standard cast of characters.

ClaireAugust 31st, 2010 at 7:29 pm

@VT, that was my exact thought. Sounds as if she is bi, but the pronouns were still messy. It gets worse when you realize that BF could be best friend or boyfriend.

KCAugust 31st, 2010 at 10:24 pm

This sounds like a horrible date but why would you ever date a friend’s ex, much less their STALKER. Were you hoping to be stalked, too? Are you jealous of your friend getting that kind of attention and wanted some for yourself? Don’t feel sorry for the stalker, feel sorry for your friend. Being stalked is terrifying unless you were just using the word casually and he was just annoyingly persistent? I don’t get it.

wafflesSeptember 1st, 2010 at 2:47 pm

wtf

i read the first paragraph 3 times and i still have no idea what the premise of this story is. That makes the rest so much more confusing.

MattSeptember 1st, 2010 at 9:50 pm

I think that she meant to say that R was stalking her best friend.

JennSeptember 2nd, 2010 at 10:43 pm

I’m sorry if I wrote things unclearly. Perhaps my pronouns were messy, but I honestly wasn’t focusing upon writing this while I was doing it. It’s a post to a blog, I didn’t think it would be such a serious issue.

However, if it helps, R was my ex boyfriend’s best friend and he had stalked my best friend. My friend was fine with my going, I asked her first, and she was glad that he had someone to go with. I

@ everyone who thinks that the date was my idea: It was not. I went with him as a friend – it only became an accidental date when I realized he was trying to get in my pants. I had no moral issues about going precisely because I did not think it was a date.

@KC: For your information, I have been personally stalked and I’m intelligent enough to know what stalking is. And perhaps if you had some idea about it you wouldn’t suggest that anyone would ever want that, even if you’re trying to be funny. However, I also recognized that this guy had some serious mental issues that were not his fault, and that is why I felt bad enough for him to even spend time with him. Even the my friend who was being stalked felt bad for him, knowing what she did about his past.

SallyJanuary 17th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

To “Jenn” whose story this apparently is.

Dates are dates and assuming it’s not a date without specifically telling the person “it’s not a date.” Also, I HAVE been stalked….twice and I’m sorry the fault still lies with you. Why would feel sorry for someone who stalked your best friend? That’s scary! Also, you may want to question your friend’s motive if she encourage you to go out with her stalker. Perhaps she was hoping he’d stop stalking her and stalk you saving her the grief. Tsk, tsk.

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