A VWD Straight Up

After exchanging a few emails via a dating website, this nice looking man and I arranged to meet for cocktails. Fifteen minutes past our designated meeting time, I texted him because I couldn’t find him at the bar; he responded that he was mistakenly at the place next door. As I eagerly watched the front door for him to enter, a 5’7” man sashayed in and my gaydar went off in a major way. I recognized his face from his profile photos, but they obviously purposely excluded a full-body shot. When he opened his mouth to say hello, his voice was reminiscent to Nathan Lane’s in The Birdcage. His nicely coiffed hair, waxed eyebrows, and glowing skin didn’t help persuade me much either. My head started reeling and I was trying to quickly figure out what the heck was going on – was I on a hidden camera show?! It was obvious that this man preferred men and I, if you hadn’t guessed, am a woman. My manners trumped common sense and I found myself ordering another beer for myself and a Jack and Diet for him. He then divulged that on his last date the girl questioned his sexual preference within the first 20 minutes. He was telling me that he was shocked and hurt, so of course I had to concur that it was awful and rude.

There were several awkward silences throughout the date and it didn’t help that the bartender was chuckling the whole time. When my date got up to visit the restroom, she and two customers at the bar exclaimed that he was clearly gay. Upon his return, his main topics of conversation included the following: he’s a season pass holder to Disneyland and likes to go down a few times a month to trade collectable pins with the cast members; he collects Star Trek figurines and really thinks people who keep them in their original packaging are lame – they are meant to be taken out and played with; and, he has outfitted his apartment with his female guests in mind – he bought a special shelf with hooks just for their purses.

I wanted the date to end so badly. I kept trying to think of an out, but he kept ordering drinks (for himself) and I was stuck in “be a nice person” mode. After nearly two hours, I announced I needed to be on my way. To my horror, he insisted on walking me to my car. Being that is was a bit chilly outside, he whipped out a bomber jacket that he had cleverly hidden up until this point. In large letters on the back it read, Tales from the Crypt and had some fancily embroidered character on it. On the front, where a name might be, was an assortment of Disney and Star Trek pins. He leaned in for a hug and a kiss, so I gave him a quick side hug and bolted.

Comments (56)
JoyJune 7th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

Wow. Just WOW.

SarahJune 8th, 2011 at 12:36 am

Er. It IS rude to speculate like that. People come in all kinds of sexualities.

It’s not gay if the balls aren’t touching!

Karen HiebertJune 8th, 2011 at 12:48 am

no need to be nice. u don’t know the person from adam. :) one drink minimum I say. plus the fact that everyone knew he was gay except the guy….um. ew.

bloodyneptuneJune 8th, 2011 at 1:51 am

Hey! There is nothing wrong with Star Trek toys, and or taking them out of the package to play with them.
Being a Trekkie is a beautiful and natural thing, and we deserve the same respect as everyone else! T_T

MaureenJune 8th, 2011 at 2:36 am

Ah, some people don’t *like* the fact that they’re gay, won’t admt it readily to themselves and go through all sorts of emotions before leaping from the closet. He does sound like a sweet man, thoughtful (even although it was unusual for a manly man type deal). Bet he’s looking for a woman to be attracted to, fall in love with and it might be a goodly amount of years before he comes to terms with being gay, if ever.

EdhlaJune 8th, 2011 at 3:04 am

You know, a man can be what society might label as “effeminate” and *gasp* still want to have sex with women. What you wear doesn’t make you gay. How you speak doesn’t make you gay. What you like to read and watch doesn’t make you gay. If you want to exclusively bang people of the same gender as yourself… makes you gay.

Frau BlucherJune 8th, 2011 at 3:19 am

very odd….

Yersinia P.June 8th, 2011 at 3:36 am

You know, a “gaydar” is not your ability to filter out effimate men and label them gay.

SynnoveJune 8th, 2011 at 5:24 am

Edhla and Yersinia P. — YEP. YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP.

SallyWordSlingerJune 8th, 2011 at 5:35 am

He sounds like a dork.

LauraJune 8th, 2011 at 5:39 am

People, lay off the OP. I’m a straight woman, and even if this guy is just an effeminate straight man, I would NOT want to date him. I don’t know why this story only got 3 stars. It is by far one of the most amusing stories I’ve read on here. Ahahahah!

Btw, I guess it’s OK to call the OP a jerk, but not an idiot, otherwise your comments get rejected. I noticed it’s also OK to use the word “slut” in the comments. Interesting.

cupkateJune 8th, 2011 at 6:20 am

Are you guys kidding me? He has a hook for women to hang their purses on in his house. He has season passes to DISNEY LAND. If that’s not gay, then it’s certainly screaming sexual predator. I would love for all you high and mighty people to sit through a date like that and pretend it’s nothing. Everyone is so eager to get up on their high horses just because the OP thought the guy was gay. She didn’t say it was wrong or gross; just awkward. BECAUSE IT IS.

So, um, when did he whip it out?

blondieJune 8th, 2011 at 7:06 am

Oh man. We had a guy at work who would get really mad if anyone suggested he wasn’t straight, even though he set off every single gaydar in the office (including, I might add, all the other gay employees’ gaydars, if that counts for anything). He’s the same guy who, we guess in attempt to fit in with the guys, held up a dollar bill, pointed at me, and said, “Should I put this in her pocket?” then to quell all the horrified faces, clarified, “You know- like a stripper!” The more I tell that story, the more I wish I’d pushed for some kind of sexual harassment charges. Hmm…

RubyJune 8th, 2011 at 7:12 am

I thought this was hilarious. Having dated a closeted gay man myself (only for about a month, I kept dating him since he was SO sweet and fun, but there was obviously no chemistry between us…we remained friends, and he finally came out to everyone about a year later. No one was all that surprised.), it brought up some fun memories. I think he sounds sweet. I can’t blame the OP for not wanting to pursue him as a date, but as a freind maybe? The Disneyland pass thing makes me giggle. I love a guy who appreciates Disneyland as much as I do.

RubyJune 8th, 2011 at 7:13 am

Blondie, I think I have a girl crush on you. Does that make me gay?

adminJune 8th, 2011 at 7:20 am

@Laura please point out to us where someone is calling another a slut (in a non joking way) so we can edit/delete. Our email is myveryworstdate@gmail.com. We cannot find it.

Just SayingJune 8th, 2011 at 7:23 am

Two words – MAN CHILD!

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 7:37 am

I totally had this happen to me once. I was doing this guy from behind, going at it really good, next thing I know he’s reaches back and touches my sack…I was completely shocked, I was like…”whoa, whoa, whoa…I don’t go there…” and as soon as I finished I was out of there.

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 7:37 am

OP- You should have asked for the penis because he would have rocked your world and left you begging for more. What’d he do for a living…was it hair?

@blondie – is it really sexual harassment if you know he can’t follow up?

I’m going to guess, as our loud obnoixious friend above said, man child who grew up very insecure.

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 7:37 am

or he’s gay.

blondieJune 8th, 2011 at 9:15 am

I dunno, Irish Pop. The same guy somehow managed to snag a beard and impregnate her. Note, he never told us, “Hey, we’re pregnant!” or “Our family is getting bigger!” or “I’m going to be a father!” He just announced matter of factly, almost defiantly, “I have impreganted my wife.” So I guess he COULD follow through if he thought it meant people would stop pointing out that he’s gay. And he is. So very, very gay.

blondieJune 8th, 2011 at 9:18 am

Really, Ruby? You’re attracted to me? Even though, according to my avatar on the left here, I have no hair, face, or neck, and I look exactly like Irish Pop?

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 9:29 am

Maybe he’s catholic.

and I’m hot, I make a great looking woman.

AvidReaderJune 8th, 2011 at 9:56 am

The poor guy.

Drinky the drunk girlJune 8th, 2011 at 9:59 am

I don’t think he was gay. There are a lot of weird people that do things that are not gay sex. I don’t think she should have dated him if she didn’t like him….But not every prissy pants is gay, guys. Some chicks like to wear pants, smoke, swear, and watch sports but they are not lesbians. We really need to get over the label thing, people.

blondieJune 8th, 2011 at 10:32 am

Please stop labelling us all as “people.”

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 10:36 am

Please stop using the letter “l” like it was on clearance at the dollar store.

blondieJune 8th, 2011 at 10:52 am

Touche. Unless I’m British?

LiLoJune 8th, 2011 at 11:05 am

Oh are we talking about how Irish Pop likes dudes again? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.)

And to the OP: Be brave, embrace the Trek.

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 11:05 am

You’re not, too good a sense of humor.

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 11:08 am

Now, do I like dudes again or are we talking about it again? A bit ambiguous there. Either way, there will be penis.

/tomorrow’s lesson, people, will be vag.

LiLoJune 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am

It doesn’t really matter IP. As you state: the inclusion of penis in this conversation is what really matters.

PS Does that mean tomorrow we can drink cosmos and try to snyc our menstrual cycles? BFFs? <3 <3 ::giggle:: <3 <3

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

I just plan on sitting down when I pee.

SallyWordSlingerJune 8th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

BLondie…at the risk of being unhip…what does “snag a beard and impregnate her” mean?

ohsotrueJune 8th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

Okay, the whole yearly passes to Disneyland screams something but I’m not quite sure. I know a guy who aslo has a yearly pass and loves loves Disney. Is he weird, yes, gay no. What I don’t get is when he openned the door and spoke on the first impression he receives from women why not be truthful and let him know you thought the same thing? I would ask because I am that freaking curious why he doesn’t see how he lives, dresses and decorates leaves one to question his sexuality.

blondieJune 8th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

A beard (according to Urban Dictionary): a man or woman used as a cover for a gay partner

The rest should make sense. He found a woman with whom he is supposedly in a relationship, though we all assume she’s just a cover for his awesome gayness. He then shot some of his sperm into her vagina, and now they will have a baby.

Irish PopJune 8th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

So blowies are safe…no babies?

chrisaJune 8th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

gads, i am laughing so hard at these comments… stop it you all are killing me!
(my tummy hurts)

RepublicJune 8th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

Looks like I missed the commenting party today!

Where do I begin with this:

-Firstly it’s worth 5 stars :)
-OP is under no obligation to date him (even if he’s *cough* not gay) nor befriend him. She was in an awkward and unfair position. I don’t care if he’s sweet but if his problems are that transparent then he needs to sort them out- or at least label on his profile that he’s effeminate. I hold him down as a liar the same way I would a 300 pound guy that took head shots and never mentioned his weight.
Freya, Edhla, Drinky- god. I have nothing. just, just…

RepublicJune 8th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

*yersinia… apologies Freya

cupkateJune 8th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

“Some chicks like to wear pants, smoke, swear, and watch sports but they are not lesbians.”

…………………………

no.
way.

EdhlaJune 8th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

I just don’t understand what made this such a bad date. Was it because he didn’t try to have sex with her, or what? Even if he WAS gay, he was kind and friendly and treated her respectfully (unless the OP isn’t telling us something.) Dead end in terms of a LTR, perhaps, but hardly a horrible ordeal.

There’s something really wrong about random bystanders sniggering and making assumptions about her date’s sexuality, too. Ugh. It’s less about her being embarrassed at people calling her date gay and… well. Think how HE feels. That kind of carry-on is part of the reason why gay people don’t come out!

Johnny IrishJune 8th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

It’s called “My Very Worst Date”, not “The Very Worst Date”…sounds like it was her worst date. The “snigger” behind his back thing sounds more to me like they were laughing about the situation, not that idea of being gay. It’s funny, I would have laughed. Imagine a really hot, half dressed girl (this is my version), showing up for a date and a really short, very effeminate guy sashays in…that’s funny…to a third person that’s funny.

/penis

ChimeJune 8th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

I love it when straight people tell us gays what we have to be like!

KaliJune 8th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

What a bunch of nosy judgemental douchebags you all were. That poor guy.

BillyJune 8th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

^don’t be that way dude

blondieJune 9th, 2011 at 6:54 am

How are we nosy?

Irish PopJune 9th, 2011 at 7:40 am

Point them out to me Chime and I’ll take care of it for you…which one of these douche bags told you what to be like?

DeeJune 9th, 2011 at 8:15 am

Sounds like someone I’d want to be friends with (if he could just come out of the closet).

Yersinia P.June 9th, 2011 at 11:38 am

Republic, I have something.

I didn’t say the OP wasn’t allowed to not be into effimate men. She is, because after all, we all have certain body types and/or character traits we are attracted to or turned off by.
All I disagreed with was her catty description and her labelling the guy as gay because he didn’t fit the type of guy she was after.
As Edhla said above, none of the things the OP’s date said or did made him gay.
I do agree though, some of it made him really weird, so I do understand why she ended the date

madhattieJune 9th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

It would be interresting how old the guy was

DerpJune 10th, 2011 at 11:19 am

At some points in my life, I’ve been mistaken for a lesbian. And I am not, nor will I ever be. I also have a rather feminine guy friend who everyone thinks is pure gay. But, shock of all shocks, he is not.

So hearing a bunch of people assume that this man is gay is sad. No one knows that but the man himself, and sure, he may be in the closet, but he may also not be. Just because a guy is in touch with his feminine side doesn’t automatically mean he’s gay, and to so brashly label him as that makes the OP look like a pathetic little child. And defending her for making such allegations makes you look just as low as she does. Generalizing and labelling other people based on how they look is an extremely unattractive trait, not one people should encourage.

Not that my opinion matters at all, especially on the internet, but I just wanted to put that out there.

Lady SilverJune 10th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

I am with the other people who are annoyed by the poster assuming the guy is gay. I have met many effeminate straight men and masculine gay men. Heck, my husband loves unicorns, rainbows, and other so-called “feminine” things. And no, he’s not secretly “in the closet”, he just is quirky. I feel sorry for the guy on this date, to be honest.

buffyJune 11th, 2011 at 11:03 am

@Dee–my thoughts exactly.

MonicaJune 13th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

@ Lady Silver

My boyfriend of 4 years is the same way. I joke that he’s fruity all the time, but he’s just not attracted to guys. Not to mention that it takes someone who’s really confident in their sexuality to be themselves and not care about whether they’re being “heteronormal” or not. In fact, one of his favorite shirts is this Pride shirt his company put out. He couldn’t care less if people thought he liked guys.

KaliJune 16th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

I didn’t mean the commenters, I meant the OP and the people in the bar.

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