On A Scale of One To Mad

My Very Worst Date was with I guy I had been with for a few months. Let’s call him Andrew. We met through training seminars that we had regularly at work, and although he lived a few hours away, we got to see each other at weekends and we chatted on the phone a lot.

I bought a ticket to a concert in his city that I was dying to go see. I asked if he wanted to go, but he had his friend’s birthday dinner that night and besides, he wasn’t familiar with the band. We agreed that I’d stay at his place for the weekend and on the we’d get together after the concert.

The weekend came and the concert was amazing, then I sent him a text to let him know I’d meet him at the restaurant. Timing was perfect as they were just finishing up dinner and getting ready to leave. Some of the people at this dinner were also good friends of mine so we all decided to go out. Andrew was really desperate to go to a gay bar. The two of us were the only gay people in the group, and I myself am not really a fan, but it was the closest place so we followed him.

The bar turned out to be quite nice. I was catching up with the people who were at the dinner when I saw Andrew talking to another guy, that we’ll call Bruce, as if they were old friends. I went up to Andrew and he introduced me to him. Bruce was nice and we chatted for a little while, but I still didn’t really know who this guy was. Andrew took me to one side and said “Look how flirtatious he’s being! I think he likes me!” I laughed a little and said he should tell Bruce who I was.

I started to feel a little uncomfortable about how much time Bruce was spending with Andrew, but I trusted him and continued chatting with our friends. Andrew storms over to me and says, in front of everyone, “So, on a scale of one to mad, how mad would you be if I kissed him?” I would have thought my death-glare would have given him some idea, but he repeatedly asked me and the opinion of my friends. The friends, understandably weirded out, all left and I was left watching the guy I had came in with all over someone else. It soon became clear that Bruce was in fact a total stranger whom he had just met.

Bear in mind, I was staying at his place and had nowhere else to go. I asked for Andrew’s key so I could go to bed. Andrew threw a hissy fit about how he wanted to stay and how he wanted me to be there at the club. He thought it was really funny and cute that I was mad and again, kept asking how mad I was “on a scale of one to mad.” I told him that I wasn’t going to stay, so I took his key and went back to his place to sleep. When I woke up I started to gather my stuff together to get the hell out of Andrew’s house. He woke up beside me and asked why I was leaving. I told him he must have been really stupid if he didn’t know why and I had to spell it out to him. “Oh… that…,” he said.

He told me nothing happened once I left and just stood around alone for a while, and that he felt so bad afterwards and blamed it on the alcohol. I was still pretty mad, but I said I would take some time to think about us. Taking this as forgiveness (?), he did an about-turn and said “Well, actually, I went back into the club to find Bruce to make out with him.”

The saddest part is he genuinely thought I would have been OK with this and he believed he didn’t do anything wrong. He didn’t understand how I felt humiliated in front of our friends, how much of a scene he caused or how he ruined my and other people’s evenings.

Unfortunately, we had to see each other repeatedly because of our mutual friends as well as work. He made me feel uncomfortable when we did meet because he would ask my friends why I was being off with him and putting everybody in an awkward position. I began to realise how lucky I was because he became very emotionally unstable at times and developed a real Jekyll/Hyde personality.

Revenge, as they say, is a dish best served cold. I suffered months of having him undermine me, but the last straw was when I heard him brag about his big promotion with double the salary. I built up a dossier of all the misdeeds he told me about while we were together and ones that I discovered afterwards, and sent it to his superiors.

Let’s just say he has a lot more free time now to spend hanging round bars.

 

Comments (42)
NamePersonNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:00 am

This Andrew guy sounds as if it was actually my brother Andrew… If it is, I apologize on his behalf for his terrible behaviour. Terrible if OP didn’t use a fake name…

SallyWord!November 1st, 2011 at 11:01 am

I expected a gay VWD story to convey a lot more dancing, singing and drama.

BillyNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:10 am

Wow, I was kind of thinking this was a bad date, but your revenge is nothing short of being a total asshole. Andrew was rude to you on a date and things didn’t work out so you decided to get him fired from his job? What’s the new saying now? Grow some balls and put on your big girl panties!

RattusNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:14 am

Out of curiosity, when do concerts end these days? Waaaay back when I was young, a concert didn’t end until midnight or thereabouts, and anyone who ate dinner out that night would have finished hours ago.

MargaretNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:15 am

Getting someone fired for a bad date. Sounds a little out of proportion.

JgirlNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:17 am

I can see that Andrew was really awful, but that sort of vindictive revenge is petty and cruel.

NattieNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:23 am

“on a scale of one to mad…” really?

I’d say there’s drama – looks like Andrew wanted the whole group to end up talking about him that night.

While he doesn’t sound like a prize, however, I can only wonder if you two had previously discussed that you were in a monogamous, committed relationship. Too many problems arise when nothing is explicity stated and one partner thinks they’re just “casually seeing each other” and the other thinks that they’re an official couple.

AsiaNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:27 am

Go… Girl. He definitely received his Just Desserts :D

NattieNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:27 am

Personally, I’d have to know what the “misdeeds” were to say whether or not it was cruel. Taking extended lunches, making a few personal long distance calls, and stealing pens? Then yes, vindictive. But maybe Andrew was expensing major items that he shouldn’t have been, selling insider knowledge to competitors, or engaging in insider trading. In that case, I’d say fair enough.

AsiaNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:29 am

Oh.. Just finished re-reading (i have a habit of speed reading these when I can) about the dossier thing… don’t you think that was a little extreme? He was an ass… but still . . .

Unless the undermining deal was him undermining you at work… then I could sort of understand that.

But only sort of.

anonymousNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:47 am

I find this one really…scattered. Were you and Andrew actually in a long-distance relationship? Then he annoyed you to the point of madness when he was all over this Bruce and making out? (well, I’ve heard of worse things in gay bars, back rooms and such). Well, maybe Andrew is snorting coke while you’re out of town, from how you describe him later (unstable, Jekyll/Hyde). I’d like to know what you sent to his superiors, I’m wondering if it’s drug-related.

SubmitterNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:48 am

Hi everyone, I submitted this story and I noticed on re-reading how it’s a little ambiguous.
Obviously it’s important that a post be concise, so I’ve left details out from the story and the aftermath. As for him getting fired, I don’t want to go into particular detail, but they were things that weren’t anything to do with our relationship and in any other circumstance are also instantly fireable, it’s just that there was nobody willing the blow the whistle on such serious problems. So my conscience is clear because I know he would have got caught out at some point.
That’s all I have to say, and I didn’t go into so much detail in the story because it probably makes it less dramatic!

TroiaNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:53 am

Dude, I’m sorry, what Andrew did to you was horrible, but I don’t think that justifies making him lose his job.

LauraNovember 1st, 2011 at 12:29 pm

“Blame it on the vodka, blame it on the henny… Blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-alcohol…”

I guess they should change the saying to “hell hath no fury like a gay man scorned.”

blondieNovember 1st, 2011 at 1:12 pm

I am curious about what this relationship was like for the several months before this horrible date. Was this drama-rama really totally out of the blue, and before that he always behaved like a gentleman? Somehow I get the sense that the OP probably could have seen crap like this coming. [not that I'm blaming/bashing the OP- I just have a tough time believing this level of douchebaggery would just cmoe out of nowhere]

And yeah, I’m on board with everyone else. Getting someone fired because they humiliated you is not cool.

BillyNovember 1st, 2011 at 1:35 pm

My opinion is that it doesn’t matter how serious the offenses that led to his termination were if they weren’t important enough to bring up while they were together. The ONLY reason that OP submitted the violations is because he had a bad date with Andrew, and that type of vindictive revenge is nothing short of awful.

To see that OP has no remorse for being such a jackass is equally saddening. Maybe this country has such a high unemployment rate because OP is actually a serial dater. What an ass.

LauraNovember 1st, 2011 at 1:46 pm

After reading the last paragraph again, it seems to me that the OP didn’t have his date fired just because he went on a bad date with him. He said he put up with his BS for months and only after hearing him brag about his big promotion did he decide to air his dirty laundry. I’m not saying it was justified, but it certainly wasn’t just because he was mad at him for the bad date, and maybe we shouldn’t judge without knowing what the circumstances were. If I had a coworker who had humiliated me and then spent months being a jerky co-worker, and THEN got promoted for it on top of that, I wouldn’t sit around and let him get away with it either.

cupkateNovember 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm

I don’t know if it’s the Irish/Cancer sign in me (or maybe I’m just naturally vindictive) but I was psyched to read that you helped in getting him canned. I know people are saying it’s not cool but you know what? If he was doing stuff that could get him fired and he’s clearly a selfish, immature ass outside of the office than GOOD. It’s called karma, and it sucks when it comes around to bite you in the ass. I hate when I see good people I know get the short end of the stick when others who don’t deserve good fortune are dripping in it. So although your fan club may be small, I’m on your side. If you see him in public I would ask him on a scale of 1- mad how he feels about being unemployed.

KayleighNovember 1st, 2011 at 2:49 pm

@Nattie, even if this was a first date it’s a douche move to obviously flirt and try to hook up with someone else. It’s got nothing to do with monogomy, just common courtesy.

AvidReaderNovember 1st, 2011 at 4:11 pm

I’m with Laura and Cupkate. I don’t understand where people are getting that it was after a single bad date. Did everyone else miss the months of ridicule and undermining of the OP? Good riddance. I’d have done the same thing.

Yersinia P.November 1st, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Good for you OP, that you got rid of the guy, he sounds like an idiot.

I’m not sure what my opinion is about you getting him fired as revenge, but I can definitely understand why you did it.
I’ve been in one or two situations where I wished I had the guts to be an utterly vindictive bitch to someone I felt deserved it, and looking back, I’m glad I never had the courage to.
But sometimes I guess taking your revenge makes it easier to get over the hurt.

PNovember 1st, 2011 at 4:35 pm

Man, all i have to say is that people who seem to get promoted a lot when they do their jobs poorly and cheat and do things they aren’t supposed to do tend to run everything else into the ground. I am happy he got fired.

AdalynNovember 1st, 2011 at 5:42 pm

Exactly how did the OP get this guy fired? He didn’t hold a position of power over him. All he did was submit a list of possible violations. At that point the higher ups probably researched them for truth and when they were found to be true, fired him. The reason he submitted it meant nothing to them.

I spent most of the story confused…but if you were in a relationship with Andrew, OP, he was entirely out of line and ridiculous.

KaliNovember 1st, 2011 at 6:02 pm

Asia, the OP is clearly a man, not a ‘girl’.

C D PlayneNovember 1st, 2011 at 7:19 pm

“While he doesn’t sound like a prize, however, I can only wonder if you two had previously discussed that you were in a monogamous, committed relationship. Too many problems arise when nothing is explicity stated and one partner thinks they’re just “casually seeing each other” and the other thinks that they’re an official couple.”

I’m cutting the OP some slack here. Having been in a similiar situation (with a female), I can see the possibility of having been misled. Perhaps Andrew hinted / suggested things the OP took at face value. Unless there were obvious ‘red-flag’ issues, or mixed messages, then shame on Andrew for playing the feelings of another person.

JewelsNovember 1st, 2011 at 7:33 pm

@Kali, I think Asia knows.

BeckZombieNovember 1st, 2011 at 8:48 pm

I’m on the OPs side. The date wouldn’t have gotten fired if he hadn’t done anything wrong to begin with (at work, not on the date). Like Adalyn said, the OP didn’t fire him, the date’s bosses did after reading/seeing what he did. They obviously thought the guy’s wrongdoings were serious enough to have him fired.

And asking someone “how mad would you be if I kissed this guy” shows (to me) that the person asking knows it’d be wrong to do/would hurt the other person. Plus, after dating a few months, flirting with someone else on a date is just bad. It’s a shitty thing to do on a first date after realizing you don’t click, but it’s at least a bit understandable. But after a few months? Naw son.

bloodyneptuneNovember 1st, 2011 at 11:29 pm

If all they did was steal pens and take extended lunches, I doubt he would have gotten /fired/. Yeah, it was vindictive, but if he was doing stuff that would get him fired that quickly, pretty sure he deserved it either way.

KaliNovember 2nd, 2011 at 3:03 am

@Jewels, then she probably shouldn’t refer to him as a girl, then. He hasn’t indicating that his gender is anything other than cis, just that his sexuality is.

KaliNovember 2nd, 2011 at 3:03 am

*indicated

zomboidNovember 2nd, 2011 at 5:02 am

humourless queer semanticists strike again

NattieNovember 2nd, 2011 at 5:35 am

I’m of two minds on the getting-him-fired thing. While the OP definitely doesn’t win any awards for ethics for getting Andrew fired, I don’t think it was an entirely horrible thing to do. The higher-ups clearly also saw it as justification for firing, so many Andrew shouldn’t have done those things in the first place.

@ Kayleigh, I agree it doesn’t make it “okay” (he made the night a bit awkward for his friends, too,) but could potentially explain why Andrew didn’t seem to think that anything was wrong with it.

Irish PopNovember 2nd, 2011 at 6:17 am

Meh, if he was doing stuff that deserved instant firing, and the guy put up with his shit for months then I don’t care that he got canned.

@cupkate, must be the irish cause I don’t have cancer.

@Submitter, I’m not sure if it is a gay thing, but I would have been telling a date to go eff herself the minute she pulled the “can I get him jealous” act. Matter of fact, I have on several occasions. Of course, it makes for great “eff you” sex if you’re down with one more spin on the pole.

blondieNovember 2nd, 2011 at 6:59 am

Zomboid, you rock.

meNovember 2nd, 2011 at 7:40 am

@kali- really? You’ve never heard the phrase ‘go girl’? I think this is a case of a non-native english speaker…or one of the characteristicly nitpicky readers who plague these ole boards. Also, this was in the UK right? The bad date makes me wonder if you had the DTR, andrew was acting like he was polyamorous. I’m picturing him as this bouncy, terribly enthusiastic gay man trying to start drama at the club. I think I’ve met that guy…but then I’ve spent my share of nights in the Castro.

SallyWord-Up!November 2nd, 2011 at 9:13 am

Yeah…zomboid…you do rock most of the time. That dark Irish sense of humour is the best.

I really really really don’t want cisgendered to become part of the vernacular. I really hate it. Can’t we just say straight? Or, gasp, “normal”? “Regular”? How about “Dull and boring and living within their assigned gender and typical sexuality”?

Look, I went through many years of experimentation and enjoyed many adventures, but now I’m 40 and don’t give a f*ck about who is doing what to whom. Can’t we all just shut the f*ck up and go in peace?

Meh.

ShaneNovember 2nd, 2011 at 9:47 am

Sounds like some of the guys I have dated. Boy, did you dodge a bullet (sort of). He got what he deserved.

belieNovember 2nd, 2011 at 8:24 pm

andrew sounds like he has a narcissistic p d

AnderlieNovember 2nd, 2011 at 8:28 pm

If you take out the date aspect and it was just a coworker being a total arse, generally being terrible at their job and then getting promoted…. hells yeah I’d put together that dossier. Team OP all the way!

LucNovember 4th, 2011 at 4:36 pm

I can’t even tell you how many dates I’ve had who did this. I’ve pretty much given up on the gay community. The highlight was when a date told me monogomy is for straight people -eye roll-
Good luck in the future, OP.

TheGnomeNovember 5th, 2011 at 2:15 pm

@SallyWord-Up!: Cisgender means you feel your body matches your gender. It has nothing to do with being normal, regular, or straight, so none of them would be the right term to describe it.

I don’t know what to think, OP. It seems to me that if you really cared about how Andrew was doing his job, you would have spoken up sooner.

PiperNovember 10th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

OP, though it may have been out of proportion to the crime to take a hand in his firing…I just can’t bring myself to feel anything other than unmitigated delight in your actions. I doff my internet hat to you!! :D

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