Going Dutch

MVWD occurred when I was 17 and visiting my relatives in a suburb of Amsterdam. I will admit, I wasn’t traumatized but in hindsight it was amusing as my first international dating experience.

I had just graduated from high school and went to spend a month in the Netherlands before starting college in the fall. One day, about a week into my visit, a young man (about 17 or 18), P, started hanging around outside. Turns out he was doing house painting at the next house, had spotted me, and wanted to ask me out. However, rather than ask me directly, P asked my older cousin to ask me. I was about to decline, thinking that he didn’t ask me because he didn’t speak English (I could understand quite a bit of Dutch but at that point in my trip, didn’t speak it very well).

But P did speak English so I agreed to the date. We went to a local sports club to go swimming. As we walked there, we made the usual small talk. I told him I was entering college in the fall. He told me about his job painting and other plans he had. We arrived and swam but for me the connection wasn’t there.

We ran into his friends and he introduced me, speaking Dutch the entire time. P must not have realized that I understood Dutch (mostly because he never asked me) and was telling his friends about the “rich American babe that he just bagged.” Even if I was having a fabulous time, this was a major turnoff. It was not that I minded being called a babe – but I did mind being referred to as if I were something to be bagged, tagged, and displayed like a trophy. And I was far from rich so I also felt a little uneasy and on edge with that reference.

As we were walking home, P asked if I would be his girlfriend.  I declined, using the excuse that I was only there for three more weeks and didn’t feel that it was appropriate. He then invited himself over for the next night, Saturday. I told him no, my family and I had plans. So he invited himself over for Sunday evening and again, I told him we had plans.  Maybe it was my American sensibility but I found inviting oneself over after one date to be really rude.

Two nights later, on Sunday, my family and I came home from dinner out. I spotted P on a bridge near the house as if he were waiting for me and it felt rather like stalking. P expected to come in and watch TV with us. I politely told him that we had been out all day and this was not a good time. I also did not commit to any future get-togethers.  The next day, he came to the house asking for water (he was working a few doors down). Bless my aunt’s heart – although I didn’t tell her that he made me uncomfortable, she sensed it and told the guy to get lost.

The rest of my visit was P-free and it was great to see such a beautiful country.

Comments (9)
Frances The ShiznitFebruary 16th, 2012 at 9:39 am

The second he bragged about fucking me to his friends in a language he didn’t think I spoke, I would have told him that I understood every word and to get lost before I kicked his ass, lol.

CloggieFebruary 16th, 2012 at 10:24 am

I can assure you that inviting yourself over to someone’s house is terrible manners in Holland. That said, there may have been some grammar-related things that he thought he was asking but it sounded like demanding. As good as Dutch people are with accents in English (so much undubbed TV and movies!), they tend to ignore English grammar and idiomatic expressions in favor of Dutch ones. It’s also possible that he assumed this how Americans do things, just as many Dutch people assume Americans eat pizza covered in canned tuna and corn kernels.

PsycheFebruary 16th, 2012 at 11:09 am

One of my rules for life: always assume that the person you’re speaking another language to exclude them really knows the language you’re using to exclude them.

JoJoFebruary 16th, 2012 at 12:31 pm

This is my story and it happened a very long time ago (30 years). @Cloggie, I do agree there may have been some language barrier in my thinking that he was inviting himself over. My mother is from the Netherlands and I often had to clarify things when I was with the Dutch relatives. But I was very clear with him to not come over either evening. It did feel very creepy to have him waiting for us when we returned from our Sunday plans. And he was very aggressive with my aunt the next day.

JoJoFebruary 16th, 2012 at 1:18 pm

OP here – one more thing: compared to other dates I have read on this site, this was by no means a horrible date. Just my worst date. Which I find myself frankly quite fortunate that this is my worst date when I read others.

ZakFebruary 17th, 2012 at 5:53 am

Hehe I see you’ve experienced the commenters on previous MVWD’s, JoJo. Nice pre-emptive strike to stop those guys moaning.

Your date doesn’t sound fun at all… ‘Lack of a connection’ – it’s a hard one to get round as a guy if you’re feeling it and they’re not. Best just to move on I suppose.

NattieFebruary 17th, 2012 at 6:50 am

Super awkward when someone is talking about you (even in a very positive light) in a language that they don’t think you understand. I’m from a region where both English and French is spoken regularily, and it’s quite normal to switch between both languages in one conversation, but not all anglophones know French while virtually all francophones have a good grasp of English. It’s great to pretend to only understand English, just to see what’s being said about you in French.

El GordoFebruary 17th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

I would have openly busted him when he said he bagged a rich American babe….

“I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU!!! This rich American babe is outta here.”

MaureenFebruary 18th, 2012 at 6:21 am

I’m Dutch and have lived most of my life in Canada. I work in a museum and love it when people talk about me in Dutch assuming I cannot understand… one sweet old lady said, ‘is this the same (rectal orifice) I met downstairs?’ …

However, I think we Dutch have a word to describe your date, OP – klootzak.

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