Double Dose of Disaster

I have two MVWDs from a very short time span in my life.

Five years ago, I was freshly out of a relationship. My friend had just met her semi-normal boyfriend by posting an ad on Craigslist, so I figured what the hell? I posted a personals ad. In the ad, I mentioned that I lived in Brooklyn and liked biking. I was 22 at the time, so I also posted that I was only interested in guys aged 20-30. I filtered through the numerous responses, and settled on meeting “Ben” and “Mike.”

My first date with Ben was neither good or bad. He wasn’t as tall as I would have liked, but was a seemingly decent, normal guy.

Shortly after that date, I accepted a date with Mike. He told me that he was also into biking, and that he would bike to my neighborhood for dinner. I told him my corner, not my address, to avoid him knowing exactly where I lived. He arrived wearing full bike-riding spandex, and when he took off his helmet, I saw that he was at least 45 years old. He informed me that he had ridden all the way from uptown Manhattan (at least a 40 minute ride), and that he would have to take a shower and change before dinner. Against every grain of judgment, I walked him down the block and let him up to my apartment to use the bathroom, figuring at least one of my two roommates would be home to protect me. Mike was already in the shower with the water running when, to my horror, I realized no one else was home. When he emerged, in a panic I rushed us to dinner to get us out of the apartment, feeling too weird and guilty to send him home despite his obvious age lie and rude shower request.

During dinner he talked nonstop about how he’s “in the record industry,” and his “last girlfriend was also much younger” but she was “into the marijuana” too much and he “couldn’t imagine having children with her.” I gave off every signal of disinterest to no avail. When we finally left, he said “Hey, I feel like ice cream, do you?” I said no and sent him home.

I was so traumatized, I called Ben to accept his invite to hang out at his apartment that night. We kissed for about two minutes, during which time he managed to get undressed down to his underpants. I looked down to see a wet stain on his underwear. Incredulous, I asked, “Did you just finish?” to which he replied nonchalantly, “Yeah” — like, no big deal. I would like to say I was flattered that two minutes of kissing me had produced an orgasm, but I just felt totally weirded out. I told him I had to leave, and he proceeded to beg me to stay the night. He was still protesting, almost in tears, as I left his apartment and walked home.

Comments (36)
EmilyFebruary 21st, 2012 at 6:53 am

Hahaha! This has to be one of the funniest worst dates I’ve read in a while. Would love to know if you ever confronted Mike about lying about his age.

LauraFebruary 21st, 2012 at 7:05 am

Well seriously, what else would you expect when you date on Craigslist?! OKCupid is free you know!

Frances The ShiznitFebruary 21st, 2012 at 7:39 am

Ok, Mike was a total douche, but I actually feel bad for Ben. You were a complete and total c*nt to him. You and Mike probably deserve each other.

EllereFebruary 21st, 2012 at 9:16 am

I loved this story so hard, but whenever I read a post by a woman hating on short men I switch genders and replace “tall” with “boobs”.

“My first date with Ben was neither good or bad. Her boobs weren’t as big as I would have liked, but she was a seemingly decent, normal gal.”

LauraFebruary 21st, 2012 at 9:23 am

Thank you, Ellere! I hate when girls judge guys for being too short. That has no bearing whatsoever on what kind of person they are, or what type of boyfriend he makes! My boyfriend is 5’6″ (omg, how awfully short!) and he is the greatest boyfriend any girl could ever ask for. Take that, judgmental beeatches!

PuzzledFebruary 21st, 2012 at 9:39 am

I don’t get it. Are women who aren’t attracted to short men morally deficient? Are they supposed to be attracted to short men, and hence they failed? Or, are they supposed to just pretend to be, and not care that they’re dating someone they’re not attracted to?

SnizFebruary 21st, 2012 at 10:20 am

Yes. Puzzled, that is correct. No one can judge, except those who leave comments here.
Wait, was this comment judgemental?

TitoFebruary 21st, 2012 at 10:30 am

Laura are you saying that women should just accept a dude even if they aren’t attracted to them? Really? I mean personally I don’t see the problem with someone that knows “Specifically” what they find attractive/or the pre-req in their potential partner (like age, height, weight, education, career, boob size, etc). We all do it in one way or another. Maybe to some thats shallow but honestly it’s their PREROGATIVE!!! If I want to date woman with big boobs I’m not gonna settle on a flat chested chick simply because she’s decent & normal. I’m gonna go for what I really want.

I also don’t think OP was a complete C for ditching Ben. I mean seriously what chick wants to cuddle with a 2 minute man all night???? Sheesh

LittleMsSunshineFebruary 21st, 2012 at 10:34 am

Interesting how one person called the OP a cunt, and no one says anything about it – yet my sarcasm voif of name calling was over the line. Really???

TitoFebruary 21st, 2012 at 10:39 am

LMS you don’t know what a complete C is? REALLY??????? Spell check that honey

SnizFebruary 21st, 2012 at 10:46 am

I’m in the weird position of agreeing 100% with Tito.

Also, if I came in my pants after just making out with someone, I’d probably be running the h*ll out of there, not trying to stay the night.

NattieFebruary 21st, 2012 at 10:49 am

@ Ellere and Laura – I don’t see a problem with someone having a height preference. Yes, it’s shallow – but dating isn’t politically correct. If it was, we’d all be obligated to date all ages, races, and genders as well. I see nothing wrong with a man saying “her boobs weren’t as big as I would have liked,” perhaps other than the fact it’s not too classy to publically discuss someone’s secondary sex characteristics. I like guys between 5’7″ and 5’11″ myself – is it wrong of me to say “he wasn’t as short as I would have liked” upon meeting someone who’s 6’5″?

LauraFebruary 21st, 2012 at 11:10 am

I’m not saying to date someone you’re not attracted to. But if you think being in a relationship is all about the physical aspects of it, then by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. I’m just saying to be a little open minded. The perfect person for you doesn’t always come in the perfect little package you have in your mind.

TitoFebruary 21st, 2012 at 11:46 am

True Laura but if you’re really trying to insinuate that the physical aspect of a relationship isn’t that important then I’d say you’re definitely in denial. The key to a successful relationship is compatability(physical & mental), communication, & honesty imo. So why is it not ok for the OP to be judgemental(hell even bitchy) to some douche that clearly didn’t adhere to her dating preference??? He deceived her straight up. That’s a major red flag right out of the gate. Why should OP be ok with that???

If I put an add on Craiglist saying I’m only interested in women that are Caucasian(for example) & someone of another ethnicity deceives me into meeting them should I be open minded when I find out they’re not what I clearly stated I was looking for? Possibly but who cares if they broke your key principle? Deceitful daters deserve all the bad karma they get;)

NattieFebruary 21st, 2012 at 11:52 am

@ Laura – definitely true, but the OP DID give him a chance. If she wasn’t at all open-minded, she would have ended the date immediately after realizing he was too short for her liking.

Also, keep in mind that just because height IS a dealbreaker for some, it doesn’t mean that they’re notoriously picky in all aspects. Maybe height is just one of the few things they really care about. For example, I’d totally date outside of my height preferences. I wouldn’t date outside of my income or education preferences, and I make no apologies for that.

MaxxyFebruary 21st, 2012 at 12:32 pm

Huh. So everyone’s hung up on the height thing but not on the idea that OP was so “traumatized” by her date with Mike that she had to calm down by … going over to sleep with a guy she’d barely met and wasn’t much attracted to?

Or how about the way that what turns her off for good is that the guy had a premature ejaculation and acted like it was “no big deal?” What was he supposed to do — beg her forgiveness? Offer to buy her a substitute?

TitoFebruary 21st, 2012 at 12:57 pm

Uhhh Maxxy did you not read that last part of the story?

“I was flattered that two minutes of kissing me had produced an orgasm, but I just felt totally weirded out. I told him I had to leave, and he proceeded to beg me to stay the night. He was still protesting, almost in tears, as I left his apartment and walked home.”

Hmmmm. Sounds like lil Benny was the ultimate momma’s boy not to mention the OP said she wasn’t head over heals for the guy after their 1st date. Lord knows we’ve all slept with someone we didn’t think was “relationship material” but she has every right to not wanna ever see Mr. premature ejac ever again.That IS a legit dealbreaker!!!!

Hell maybe she just wanted to get laid & felt Ben was more compatible….Until he jizzed in his pants within minutes of kissing her….What was the proper thing for her to do tuck him into bed & read him a bedtime story??? Get off your soapbox & shut the front door seriously!! Team OP all day

SpotFebruary 21st, 2012 at 1:33 pm

I think Laura is talking about the fact that for many women (and lets face it, men) and in the media, “short” when applied to men has become a purely negative association (which is helpful when so many of the traditional media hate stereotypes have now been deemed off limits).

It is also often used in the context that just invoking it automatically assumes everyone else agrees with you (omg he was so short! etc).

Hard to tell what the OP was implying here as it dosen’t seem relevant to his behaviour or the story, but let’s give her the benefit of doubt as she did agree to see him.

trinaFebruary 21st, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Why are we shocked that people would judge a potential date on a criteria of looks and quality (ie school/career/housing)?

It’s easy-if there’s NO attraction to the guy-we might not be right. I’ve given the ugly guy a chance and that sh!t turned out whack.

If OP is tall why would she want a short dude. And if she’s young why would she want an OLD man? 20+ years is pretty gnarly. Especially bc he lied.

Maxxy-how can you fault a 22 year old female for not wanting to kick it with the icumtooquickandI’mashortguy? If he’s seaming out of his pants from kissing can you imagine the sex?!

OP sounds like a normal 22 to me.

LittleMissSunshineFebruary 21st, 2012 at 3:06 pm

Tito – “You were a complete and total c*nt to him. You and Mike probably deserve each other.” <—————posted by Francis the shiznit. USE YOUR SCROLL BAR, HONEY.

TitoFebruary 21st, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight LMS that’s precisely what I did darling. I was merely responding to your baseless complaint about nobody saying anything to FTS for calling the OP a C. If you read my original post you would’ve noticed that I DIDN’T agree with FTS(“I also don’t think OP was a complete C for ditching Ben..”) USE YOUR BRAIN HONEY;)

NattieFebruary 21st, 2012 at 4:02 pm

To me, the worst part about Ben was the “he was down to his underwear in 2 minutes” part (wtf? Unless OP explicitly said that she wanted to have sex, immediately, that’s way too forward.) Sure, OP could have been a tad nicer about the prematurity, but why should anyone stay in a situation that makes them feel uncomfortable? The “he burst into tears and begged me to stay” was a bit of a red-flag reaction, too. Can’t blame her for leaving.

RitaFebruary 21st, 2012 at 4:09 pm

I guess I’m heightist *shugs* I’m tall for a girl (5’10”) and my fiancee is 6’1” – I often end up the same height as him with heals on. If he were any shorter I would feel like a giant.

I’ve dated a short dude before (because we got along) but it was very awkward with me bending down to kiss him etc, just didn’t like it.

Even if people have a ‘type’ doesn’t mean that ranks higher then emotional connection etc.

typically in the past I would have been attracted to guys with the following (my type):

Tall (min 6’1”)
Good posture
cute butt
good teeth
dark hair
Educated (pref. undergrad degree or higher)
Charming

my finance:

Tall (min 6’1”) Check
Good posture Nope
cute butt Check
good teeth Kinda (bit of an overbite)
dark hair Nope, blonde.
Educated (pref. undergrad degree or higher) Yep, he’s doing his PHD
Charming more cheeky then charming

Giving people who don’t meet your ‘check list’ a chance can lead to finding your dream guy :)

TimFebruary 21st, 2012 at 4:32 pm

Sorry, read this one and OP was definitely not such a good date herself. “Traumatised” because he offers icecream, or was it just realising he wasn’t compatible that did that? Pretty normal date there – most people won’t be compatible. She then goes back to the other guy’s apartment and, surprise, he lacks control – that makes two. These two guys are like little reflections of her own flaws – rude to the rude guy and rushed with the guy who can’t wait.

flapsFebruary 21st, 2012 at 8:17 pm

I think that when people write things like “he wasn’t as tall as I would have liked” on this site, they might be being a bit less shallow than it sounds. I think maybe she really means that she just wasn’t as attracted to him as she had hoped, and she was identifying one contributing factor to her lack of attraction, noting that usually she is attracted to taller men. I think that’s fine.

But if she really means that she can _only_ be attracted to tall men, well, I find that a little bizarre. Being attracted to someone is a package deal. I certainly am aware of particular aspects of people’s bodies I tend to find more attractive (e.g. I’m _usually_ not very attracted to skinny women), but there are always exceptions. It’s a package deal. You may normally like tall people or fat people, but if someone’s short or skinny and you just dismiss them on that basis, that seems to me to be shallow. You might be attracted to them anyway, if you give them a chance. On the other hand, you might not be. What I’m really saying is, be honest with yourself about whom you’re attracted to and don’t hold yourself to simplistic rules.

EllereFebruary 21st, 2012 at 11:43 pm

I love how this drama-fest started when all I was saying is that I have small boobs.

DaniFebruary 22nd, 2012 at 6:07 am

Here’s the thing. If you’re just not attracted to someone, you do not have to force yourself to be. I have a type of man that I like. Sometimes I’m attracted to guys who don’t fit that type. Obviously she was willing to give these guys a chance. But after one was a douche and one finished early it was clear she wasn’t into him so she left. If she would have stayed while wanting to leave everyone would be yelling “YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT, YOU PUSHOVER.”

Drinky the Drunk GirlFebruary 22nd, 2012 at 10:08 am

Women don’t date short guys because they act like a short guy and wont let us wear heels. Show me a short guy that does not give a shit, and I would go out with him.

blondieFebruary 22nd, 2012 at 11:30 am

did Rita’s post bragging about her fiance make anyone else barf in their mouth a little, or was that just me?

This story had so many interesting components i’m surprised we’re all hung up on the height thing again. Where’s all the spandex hate that we should be spewing? The man showed up for a date in spandex, people. Spandex. On a date. That alone is hilarious.

SallyWord!February 22nd, 2012 at 1:07 pm

^The voice of reason^ Canadian girls rock.

SpotFebruary 22nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm

How does someone act like a short guy?
I think you either need to drink a bit more or a bit less, but either way you need to lie down.

SpotFebruary 22nd, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Oh yeah, and Blondie does indeed rock.

TaylorFebruary 22nd, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Thank you, Blondie.

allyFebruary 22nd, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Yes, thank you Blondie. Spandex should not be worn on a date, and especially not by someone old enough to be the date’s father.

blondieFebruary 22nd, 2012 at 9:18 pm

thanks/you’re welcome/ spandex!/etc/ wait… I’m not Canadian? Were SallyWord!’s carrots intended for someone else?

anonymousMarch 1st, 2012 at 7:31 am

You let a stranger up into your apartment to take a shower???????????????????????????????????????????

With no witnesses to your possible rape, murder, and dismemberment.

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