Stereotypical Jerk

Just a few days ago, I was got an inbox message on a dating site that I’m on. The guy was nice looking and his profile seemed interesting, so I responded and we sent messages back and forth for about three hours. After that fairly short period of time, he asked if I’d like to meet him for lunch the very next day. I figured the conversation was going well so why not? We exchanged numbers and he told me that I could call him right then and there, but I told him I was doing homework so I’d talk to him later.

He called me a few hours later but text messaged me first to see if I was busy. I thought that was pretty thoughtful of him until….as soon as I answered the phone he asked if I was busy again. I told him no and that if I were busy I wouldn’t had said it was okay to call. He said, “Well, you sounded busy when you answered.” Ummm…all I said was “Hello?”  So the conversation was a little awkward, not flowing like it was when we chatted online, but I figured that maybe he was nervous.

He started asking me about school. I told him about this incredibly hard computer programming class I’m taking, that it involved quite a bit of math but I’m pretty good at math so I’m sure I’ll get the hang of it soon. He went on to say that it’s strange that I’m good at math because “African-Americans usually aren’t good at math” (mind you, he’s also black so I thought it was a weird thing to say). So I said I had never heard that before and he goes into telling me the statistics of how many African-Americans (though we’re the same race, it was really bothering me that he kept saying African-Americans…I never heard someone be so politically correct in basic conversation) weren’t good at math and how he read it in some article however long ago. Again I said, “That’s interesting but you’re the first person that’s ever told me that.” He kept talking statistics which was really turning me off. I was about to say, “Well I’m just really good at remembering numbers.” But before I could get it all the way out he said, “You’re too weak for me, I need a strong woman by my side, goodbye,” and hung up on me!

So I tried to call him back and he childishly sent me to voice mail. I text messaged him asking what just happened because I thought we were just having a conversation. I wasn’t really upset, just shocked. He responded that he was just talking and that I got upset for no reason.  Okay, at no point in that conversation was I upset, I’d just never heard the information he was telling me ever before, that’s all I was saying. So I called him again and we talked about it. He half-assed an apology, then changed the subject to concerts I’ve been to, then asked if I still wanted to meet for lunch the next day. I hesitated so he told me to think about it and that he had to go (he didn’t hang up on me this time).

After talking to two friends (getting both a male and female perspective of what happened) I decided I wanted to see how he was in person and told him yes, I’d still meet with him. We met the next day at Dave & Buster’s (a restaurant/bar/game center). I got there first and ordered my food – but I made sure the waitress brought separate checks because I was still kinda stinging from our conversation the night before and I didn’t want him to think that I was just trying to get a free meal.

He arrived, gave me a half-hug and made no eye contact the entire time we were talking. More regular conversation ensued, but then the subject changed to a certain city in this area that’s known for being racist back in the day (I live one city over and go to that city all the time, I’ve NEVER experienced any racism). He told me about how he never goes there. I told him that I never had a problem there at any establishment and asked him when the last time he was there. He said that he hadn’t been there since someone called him the “N” word back in high school…mind you, this guy is 36 so that had to be what, 20 years ago?!

At this point I’m thinking this guy is kind of weird and negative so I said again that I go there all the time and never had a problem. He takes his money out, pays for his one beer, abruptly gets up and says “Well, I gotta go.  It was nice meeting you, bye,” and walked off, leaving me at the table alone! I don’t know what that guy’s problem was but I deleted his number as soon as he walked away. What a majorly rude jerk…

Comments (27)
NattieMay 24th, 2012 at 5:45 am

Uhm, you should have deleted his number after the “you’re too weak for me” comment. But hmm, sounds like he’s highly socially awkward – maybe talk about racism was one of the only things he knew how to talk about?

blondieMay 24th, 2012 at 6:50 am

From the very beginning the OP confused me just as much as her date did. She talked via IM for 3 hours? (who has 3 hours to sit in front of their computer chatting?) She bothered to call some random stranger back after he insulted her and blew her off? She agreed to go to lunch with him after his bizarro behavior? Ordered her food before her date showed up?

Most importantly, she went to Dave & Buster’s and didn’t play any games?! I had a 1st date at a Dave & Buster’s type place once, and was so confused when my date didn’t want to play anything. Why did we bother coming to the game place, then? Weirdo.

alaskaMay 24th, 2012 at 7:02 am

She said she was doing homework, so that’s probably the reason for sitting in front of the computer for 3hrs and she just messaged him occasionally as she worked. Calling back and ordering first were weird, but maybe she wanted to see how much weirder it would get. I mean if someone just hung up on me after shouting something totally unrelated to the conversation I’d also call them back just to ask “WTF just happened there?!”. I like to think that both friends she asked for advice on whether or not she should meet him for lunch were like “DO IT-then you can submit it to MVWD!”.

But not playing games at Dave & Buster’s?! Unforgivable! Maybe she played games after her lame date left.

AudaxMay 24th, 2012 at 7:51 am

So is, “black” is preferred to “African-American”? Just asking.

The dude was a douche, just glad there were no sightings of Cap’n Winkie!

SallyWordSlingerMay 24th, 2012 at 8:15 am

Oh dear me. He was complete jackass, but then you gave him a second chance!

Internet dating makes it just way too easy, and easy come is easy go. It used to be a guy — and it was always the guy — had to work up the nerve to ask a girl out. He had to put some thought into it, knowing he could be shot down and his ego burned to ashes.

Nowadays it seems like you see someone you like and you send a text message to meet in the alley for sex and then wonder why things don’t work out.

Meh.

JayMay 24th, 2012 at 8:17 am

I don’t get the part where you called him back.. what was the point? And then asked to meet him in person??

SallyWordSlingerMay 24th, 2012 at 8:17 am

Audax, I would say it depends on where you are and who is talking. I live in Canada, where we still say Black.

And Black friends from the States still say Black too, come to think of it.

TillieMay 24th, 2012 at 8:25 am

Yea, I imagine “African-Canadian” is sort of weird. I tend not to use it much as an adjective since there are better ones like tall, short, smart, funny, weird, putz-y, etc for describing people. But my friend who are black identify as “black” and not “African-EnterCountryNameHere”.

TraceyMay 24th, 2012 at 8:28 am

Sometimes, second chances give a person a chance to redeem themselves and make up for an awkward start. Other times, second chances give a person the opportunity to prove they are a total jackass. Shame, because when this happens, second chances tend to go away for anyone who follows the jackass. OP, don’t beat yourself up for giving this guy a second chance, and don’t let it keep you from giving someone else one in the future. Just be a bit more cautious about it.

reviewMay 24th, 2012 at 9:31 am

@Audax: You can call them either a) my Black friend, b) my African-American friend, or c) my friend. Imagine that.

@Nattie: “Socially awkward” people prefer to be called homeschooled

TitoMay 24th, 2012 at 10:09 am

The term “African American” is a huge Misnomer imo. Being a Black male I definitely identify myself as a Black guy, Black dude etc. My nationality is American. My race is Black. Shouldn’t be too hard to comprehend.

For those who think otherwise I ask you does anyone call White people European Americans??? Nope. It’s either hey that guy is Caucasian or White. OP’s date sadly just sounds like a wannabe repressed Black dude that thinks everyone owe’s him a favor because someone called him the N bomb back in 1986. That doesn’t give him an excuse to be a Punkass but hey to each his own I guess. Women seem to dig guys that treat them like crap. Just look at the OP’s behavior throughout the story.

Speaking of which OP is Reeeaaally desperate for calling this guy back after he called her a weak lady & needed a stronger woman? Why would that motivate you to still want to go meet Carlton 2.o? You were asking for it & got everything you deserved honey. 5 stars!!!

sarahMay 24th, 2012 at 10:17 am

I also don’t get why you called him back… I think I would have just cut my losses.

@review… ha it’s funny because it’s true. Poor homeschoolers.

And I know this is random but is it weird to anyone else that OP ordered her food before her date arrived? Not that her date didn’t do a ton of weird things himself but still…

C D PlayneMay 24th, 2012 at 11:40 am

It must be me….I just don’t get this one.

It’s all over the frickin’ map.

The one bit I do understand is that it seems that the guy likes gamesmanship. You fell hook, line and sinker.

@Tito – it ain’t ‘black’ homie. It’s “my n—-” :(

DeeMay 24th, 2012 at 11:53 am

I can kinda get why you called him back. Sometimes you just really wanna know what the other person’s effing problem is. I called back a telemarketer the other day after he hung up on me. I wouldn’t have gone out him though (the OP’s date, not my telemarketer. Though I wouldn’t go out with the telemarketer either).

TitoMay 24th, 2012 at 12:02 pm

Ahhhh that’s very white of you to say CDP;(

TrinaMay 24th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

Bitches love drama. OP called back and went out this guy, bc it would potentially make a good story later on. At least she didn’t repeat and go another date.

blondieMay 24th, 2012 at 12:28 pm

Since when does the adjective “Black” warrant capitalization?

NattieMay 24th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

Lol @ Dee, whatever did you say to a telemarketer to make him hang up on you? They’re usually nothing if not persistant.

AvidReaderMay 24th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

Honestly, with the complete 360 in attitude from messaging to phone call…I’d probably gone out with him, too. Just to see if he was for real.
At least OP set up separate checks beforehand and didn’t complain about paying for her food.

KatyMay 24th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

Lol @ Nattie. I also think that all that guy could talk about was racism. I guess he thought Op would also be one of the sterotypical jerks, but when he found out that she was a regular woman, he didn’t want to continue.

JeffMay 24th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Here’s the short version: “He was weirdly rude on the phone, so I was quite surprised when he turned out to be weirdly rude in person.”

JillMay 24th, 2012 at 7:04 pm

I see a pattern here, with him insisting to her that black people aren’t usually good at math and her insisting she’s never heard that. Then him insisting that there’s racism in that city and her insisting that there isn’t. I bet just listening to that conversation would be annoying. Obviously he was overreacting by just getting up and walking away and that’s weird, but I guess that’s just his thing.

mhmMay 24th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

he seemed to have issues againist women…. bullet dodged.

TulipMay 25th, 2012 at 10:51 am

@blondie: “Black”, “White”, “Asian”, etc should be capitalized according to APA standards (American Psychological Association). This is standard grammar for academic papers, journals, and most publishing houses. AP and MLA (other forms of standard grammar for newspapers and other books) also generally capitalize these words. But in basic American-English grammar, it’s okay to write “black” and “white” in lowercase, but “Asian”, “Indian”, etc should always be capitalized. /grammar lesson

TulipMay 25th, 2012 at 10:57 am

Oh, I wanted to add that I worked at Dave and Buster’s in Honolulu for over a year and a half, and I witnessed many awkward first dates, very few ending in playing games. Maybe they should play games THEN eat? Or save D&B for their second or third date…

MaryMay 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm

I always have time to chat for 3 or more hours. :)

Frances The ShiznitMay 31st, 2012 at 7:56 am

@ Review – It seems like you have a thing for bringing up homeschooling when no one else has. Perhaps you have a complex? By the way, I’m socially awkward and I would never do this weird shit, and I’m not home schooled either.

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