Uncouth or Dare

 

I had met D in my Spanish class this last winter during my first year of college and developed a crush on him. One night we hung out after class and had a great time. Needless to say, I was thrilled to have him show interest in me as well.

He’s 22 and I’m 18, not much of an age difference, but upon this first time hanging out, he openly told me that he had been married. I was a little concerned, but I decided that I would be accepting and not let that fact affect how I felt. There were other signs that told me that this nice, respectful guy from my class was not what he appeared to be. On our first date, I learned he had a piercing below the belt, and was into light drugs. Again, I let those slide because I was naive and hopeful of finding my first relationship in college.

We hung out a couple other times. On one of these days, he insisted the need to get me to party and have a college experience. So he spent $30 on 18 bottles of hard lemonade. I had told him repeatedly not to spend the money, but accepted and was excited to have some alcohol. I knew that he was buying this in order to loosen me up and get physical with him, but when he showed no interest in drinking with me, I wrote off that ploy.

When we started talking about a relationship, I saw that he was not entirely who I thought. He immediately laid out ground rules for dating him, such as not being jealous of him hanging out with other girls, not asking questions about his connections with drugs (he’s a dealer, I come to find out) and he will not meet my parents. At this point, I was not interested in a relationship and didn’t push the subject further since he flat out told me he would not be a good boyfriend. I still had somewhat of a crush, however, and continued to (stupidly) hang out with him on a couple occasions as friends. Now, to MVWD.

He asked if I wanted to hang out for an hour or two before his night shift. I said all right, and we met for pizza. I mentioned that I still had some of the alcohol he bought me and he insisted we go drink it. I (stupidly) said ok, and him and I went back to my room to begin drinking. We had both had one or two and began playing truth or dare. I knew where this was going but decided to play along to see how far things would go.

He ended up giving me a back massage and eventually I was lying on my stomach with him on top of me. He lifted up my shirt and I warned him not to go further. Disregarding my warnings, he began kissing my back and neck, and at one point he bit my shoulder. I didn’t mind it, but it hurt when he bit me and shortly after he tried to take off my bra. I told him to stop, and he kept trying to convince me to let him. Eventually, I sat up so he would stop and him and I now sat awkwardly on my bed.

He told me he would never hit on me again and said that my friends would be upset with either him or with me since I didn’t go further with him. I tried to talk to him about it, but he did not want to. After a while we went outside so he could smoke and we could relax. I was confused as hell, upset, and didn’t know what to think of the situation. He had told me that he had hit on another girl from our Spanish class as well during that night too, so I knew at this point this was not the guy for me. We went our ways for the night.

Later, I saw a post of his on Facebook about how hard it is to hit on girls, that girls should not lead guys on only to shut them down and this is the hardest he’s been rejected in over a year. I was pissed to see his passive rant, when he was so against talking with me about what happened. He texted me later that night as if nothing happened, and I didn’t say anything about the post. To make this worse, two days later, I saw on Facebook that he is now in a relationship with the other girl from our class that he was hitting on. At this point I am no longer friends with this jerk, and I only hope this girl isn’t manipulated by him like he tried to do to me.

Comments (35)
PsycheJune 4th, 2012 at 7:42 am

I smell a booty call thwarted.

NattieJune 4th, 2012 at 8:03 am

Two things, aside from the obvious comment that this dude is a major creep.

1) Hard lemonade to get you drunk, really? I didn’t think that anyone could actually drink enough of those at one sitting to get drunk.

2) “said that my friends would be upset with either him or with me since I didn’t go further with him” …wait what?

KarenWalkerJune 4th, 2012 at 8:08 am

i don’t see how he manipulated you. i mean the guy sounds like a loser, don’t get me wrong, but he never manipulated you or made you do something you didn’t want to do

ShehJune 4th, 2012 at 8:10 am

I have no interest whatsoever in the date itself, but I just gotta bitch about your lack of intelligence.

“There were other signs that told me that this nice, respectful guy from my class was not what he appeared to be. On our first date, I learned he had a piercing below the belt, —.”

What the fuck does having an intimate piercing gotta do with being nice and respectful? Obviously he was neither, but his attitude has nothing to do with him having a piece of metal jammed through a body part.

KaliJune 4th, 2012 at 8:13 am

@KarenWalker: Exhibit A

“Disregarding my warnings, he began kissing my back and neck, and at one point he bit my shoulder. I didn’t mind it, but it hurt when he bit me and shortly after he tried to take off my bra. I told him to stop, and he kept trying to convince me to let him”

RavenJune 4th, 2012 at 8:47 am

Any guy who says, “I wouldn’t make a good boyfriend” means it. Take him at his word. This guy reminds me so much of a guy I dated in university – blech.

Drinky the Drunk GirlJune 4th, 2012 at 9:03 am

@Kali. That still does not sound like manipulation. That is being pressured.

zomboidJune 4th, 2012 at 9:14 am

he sounds like one of those MTV girls

AristoJune 4th, 2012 at 9:30 am

“Later, I saw a post of his on Facebook about how hard it is to hit on girls, that girls should not lead guys on only to shut them down and this is the hardest he’s been rejected in over a year.”

He’s obviously trying to guilt her about it. I would categorize that as manipulation.

TitoJune 4th, 2012 at 10:11 am

“I knew where this was going but decided to play along to see how far things would go.” Sounds like you’re the one manipulating the situation here. Talk about an excellent way to get date raped OP. Bravo

CatherineJune 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am

@Raven or the guy who says he is “an asshole” take him at his word.

NattieJune 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am

@Sheh, I think disclosing the intimate piercing on the first date is what’s problematic, not the fact that he had one.

amyJune 4th, 2012 at 11:28 am

This just sounds like college.

JohnnieRxJune 4th, 2012 at 11:55 am

^^I agree with Amy.. It’s just teenagers in college being…teenagers in college. OP is/was naive; boy was a hormonal “player”. Not what I would consider VWD-worthy. However, if this does happen to be OP’s VWD in life then life has been good.

C D PlayneJune 4th, 2012 at 1:13 pm

OP – I’d say don’t be too hard on yourself. You sound like a nice girl that found out not everyone may be as honorable as you. Fortunately, you found out relatively early in your dating life.

@Catherine hit the nail on the head – next time someone lays out his ‘ground rules’, heed them. Particularly if they are counter to your expectations or wishes.

@Nattie – “’said that my friends would be upset with either him or with me since I didn’t go further with him’ …wait what?”

That was the first indication that the manipulation was on. It’s lame, yes – but effective. Either she buys in against her better judgment and give him the p. Or, he does what he ultimately did – broadcast a lie.

Painful for her, but at least she found out his true character. All wasn’t lost.

AvidReaderJune 4th, 2012 at 2:09 pm

@ Nattie: My boyfriend and a couple of his friends got completely wasted off of hard lemonade back in the day. It is possible, haha.

allyJune 4th, 2012 at 5:35 pm

@Nattie I have a really low alcohol tolerance, so I can get drunk off of hard lemonade easily.

TitoJune 4th, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Why is my comment still awaiting moderation? Takes a retard admin 14 hours to moderate a 3 sentence comment with zero swear words??? Fools

adminJune 4th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

@Tito I (an admin) had a death in the family today. Not kidding. Sorry that your comment didn’t rank top on my list today.

adminJune 4th, 2012 at 7:17 pm

ps. It was held for moderation because you used the word “rape.” If you don’t use words like that you don’t have to wait for moderation.

PumaJune 4th, 2012 at 8:12 pm

@Admin. Sorry to hear about that.. it’s so sad..I hope you and your family are doing ok..

TitoJune 4th, 2012 at 9:45 pm

So why’d my second comment get flagged cuz I used the word fool? Words like asshole & fuck don’t get flagged but the dreaded R word does? U gotta be fucking kidding me bro

TitoJune 4th, 2012 at 9:48 pm

Still awaiting moderation. Let me guess you’re in the middle of a storage war marathon on A&E??? Oh shucky darn!

zomboidJune 4th, 2012 at 10:30 pm

oh tito

Maggie MayJune 5th, 2012 at 3:21 am

Admin, sorry for your loss. Go take care of yourself and your family and ignore the crazies here.

MonicaJune 5th, 2012 at 5:33 am

Um… I agree with D. You totally lead him on, and you even said you knew where this was going, but decided to take it there. Until in the middle of drunk sexy games, you suddenly decided to shut him down hard.

Don’t pretend you didn’t lead him on for weeks, and that you didn’t shut him down. He’s perfectly justified in that facebook post.

NattieJune 5th, 2012 at 6:13 am

@Admin, my condolences to your family.
@AvidReader & Ally, fair enough haha, I always figured you’d get sick off the sugary goodness of the lemonade before you could get drunk, but I guess I have a high tolerance for alcohol and a low tolerance for sweet drinks.

And yeah, D is justified in his facebook post (even if he’s not, he can write what he wants on his own page, particularly if he doesn’t mention names.)

However, OP has the right to engage in a few drinks and some very PG-rated fooling around without owing D a relationship. Jeeze, I though it was only teenage girls who did the “we went on a few dates and hooked up, so if we don’t become an official couple now you’re a horrible person and YOU USED ME” thing. Newsflash: a few dates and a few drinks does not make someone owe you sex, a relationship, or anything else for that matter. While D has the right to his feelings, I hardly think OP owes D anything.

AlonzoJune 5th, 2012 at 7:01 am

A day later . . . it suddenly occurred to me that this creep was still maried and his wife was probably pregnent at this time!

AudaxJune 5th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

so, was he married already or not?

SpotJune 6th, 2012 at 12:16 pm

For what it’s worth, I could use a bit more moderation of Tito’s comments.

ValJune 7th, 2012 at 8:34 am

You knew where it was going, but decided to “play along” He’s right, you are a tease.

adminJune 7th, 2012 at 9:09 am

@Spot he has been banned from the site entirely, but may try to come back as a different name/IP address (we have had this happen in the past).

LowMaintenanceJune 8th, 2012 at 5:41 am

So he used the “if you don’t sleep with me, your friends will be mad at you” card? Classy.

adminJune 8th, 2012 at 8:53 am

@Tito that’s rich coming from someone who “Likes” Storage Wars on their Facebook page. Sorry you can’t write back because you have been banned from our site. You can continue to call us cowards, “retards” and wish that my mom died (what would Diddy think about that?) but it won’t be appearing in the comments section. You are not the only person who has been banned so please don’t think you’re that special.

JamJune 16th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

This seems more like a MVWD for the guy! He told you who he is and what he does (drug dealer, really?), yet you continued to hang out with him and, God forbid, be alone with him. He did not manipulate you; he put all of his cards on the table, and you played the hand that he dealt. (Goodness, I can milk a metaphor.) Anyway, be a bit more wise about the company you keep.

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