Leave Me Alone

My Very Worst Date was not all that bad, really. It was what happened afterwards that makes it scary and annoying. I met J a little over a year ago on a dating website that I’ve since removed my account from, after several experiences similar to this.

We went for coffee the first time and J seemed sweet and smart. He was geeky, not really good looking but I could handle that. So, we made arrangements to meet for coffee a second time.

After the second coffee, we went back to my place to watch a movie. And that was it. I told him I wanted to get to know him, there was no sex, we cuddled and he left. Then the fun started.

He bitched me out for being a cocktease and a bitch, for leading him on; he told me he wanted to do me and that he wouldn’t give up until he did. He even accused me of having a boyfriend and being a cheating hoe (I did not have a boyfriend, and I’ve never cheated). I told him that he was being nasty, I had been interested in him but I’d lost all interest when he started making crazy accusations. I then lost his number, even though he kept texting me I refused to answer.

About six months ago, I had to change my number because a different guy, A, had been harassing me and making threatening phone calls. The police tried warning him but it didn’t stop him so I changed my number. Problem solved, right?

J was waiting for me when I got home two months ago. He’d called my phone and found the number was disconnected, so he’d driven around my area until he’d recognized my car, followed it back to my place and followed me into the building. Scared the hell out of me; I had completely forgotten about him. He managed to talk his way into my apartment, tried to grope me, refused to leave while I fed my cats, completely ignored my hint that I had an early start, stayed until 11:00 pm, refused to take the hint of me getting into my pajamas and tried to grope me again, gave me his number and then finally left. I lost his number, didn’t call him at all, didn’t speak to him or even think of him for over two months, and all seemed well. You think he’d take the hint, right?

He showed up at my apartment block again last night with his phone number wrapped around a chocolate bar, and banged on my windows (I live on the ground floor) until I went to the window to tell him to get lost. I didn’t realize it was him until he gave me the chocolate bar. I told him I couldn’t take it because I’m allergic to chocolate (this is true). He refused to take it back, so I threw it at his head, then put his number down the toilet wrapped around cat poop and flushed repeatedly.

It’s been a year. He has no idea of my circumstances. I don’t have a boyfriend but I am seeing someone casually and I’m happy with my life this way. I can guarantee you if he comes near me again, I’ll call the cops and have him arrested for stalking me. I’ve learned my lesson. Never bringing a guy home before I’ve known him for at least 6 months again.

Comments (30)
NattieJune 6th, 2012 at 7:52 am

“then put his number down the toilet wrapped around cat poop and flushed repeatedly…”

This makes my morning.

But yeah, that’s pretty scary, sounds like J has both anger and boundary issues.

AmandaJune 6th, 2012 at 8:01 am

Please call the cops right now and create a record of his behavior. Also, please stay at a friend’s or really anywhere else for the next couple of nights. This is not a joke. He is not just pushy. He is going to escalate his behavior into violence. Do not let him “talk his way” into your apartment ever again. Do not put blinders on your eyes until it’s too late.

GinnyJune 6th, 2012 at 8:11 am

Restraining order restraining order restraining order restraining order.

Good Gawd – its boys like this that make women carry Mace.

TraceyJune 6th, 2012 at 8:27 am

What Amanda said, plus inform the caretaker/manager at your apartment know about this so he can inform everyone not to let anyone in they don’t know or to call the police when nutjobs like this show up banging on windows or trying to burst through doors. Ask about putting an extra lock and/or peephole on your door so you don’t have to open it without knowing who’s on the other side. (Frankly, if the manager refuses this request, I’d install them anyway, along with hanging a bell on your doorknob in case someone tries to open the door.) Also, tell your friends about these guys in case anything happens or anyone shows up at their places asking about you, and they can be aware of anything strange going on – don’t worry about feeling embarrassed or awkward because this situation calls for vigilance. One more thing, report these guys to the dating sites through which you met them. Maybe they can block them from their sites…chances are they’ve done this to other women they’ve met online. Be safe and be well.

sabbyJune 6th, 2012 at 8:38 am

I agree 100% with Tracey and Amanda, please do not take this lightly I would even move if possible, I have a feeling he’s spying on you, please give us an update and let us know you’re well. I’m sending you blessings and good luck.

DaniJune 6th, 2012 at 9:43 am

You wrapped it around cat poop and flushed it repeatedly…?

CJCarvilleJune 6th, 2012 at 10:11 am

The next time an unwanted man is in your apartment, seriously do not “hint” that you would like him to leave. You have to be direct. Subtlety is lost on guys like this. Read the “Gift of Fear” for more information. You’ll see why hinting around is bad.

Drinky the Drunk GirlJune 6th, 2012 at 11:11 am

Yikes! This guy sounds like he is gearing up for something bad! Stay safe…

AnJune 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am

Hmm… He scared the hell out of you and you still let him talk his way into your apartment?

Ben ThereJune 6th, 2012 at 11:31 am

CJ is right, you need to read “the Gift of Fear.” You are lucky you werent raped or worse that night.

maoJune 6th, 2012 at 12:34 pm

I agree with Amanda. Call the cops and create a police record on this guy. He’s already shown up twice at your place, with 2 months gap in between, from what sounds like more than half a year since you had your second date. You better do everything you can to make sure he GETS ARRESTED next time he shows up, not just warned off by the police.

You let him in once (I was so scared on your behave) and told him to get lost the second time. Next time it should be, you see him and your hands have already dialed 911.

JayJune 6th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

He refused to leave while you fed your cats?

Definitely definitely definitely do not “hint” about things next time. You tell him to get out, and then if he doesn’t, you call the police. He WAS stalking you, and then you let him talk his way into your apartment..

Good luck.

laurenJune 6th, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Not really sure a move is necessary but maybe extra precautions are necessary, he sounds creepy.

KatyJune 6th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

I agree with Tracey and Amanda. This guy sounds VERY creepy. J didn’t stop stalking you even after 6 months stopped. I don’t think he leave you easily until he acheived his “goal”. Hope you kept all the record of his behavior.

KateJune 6th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

One of the previous posters gave the best advice you’re going to find here. Please please please, read the gift of fear by gavin de becker. It could save your life. I’m very glad you’re happy with your life right now and seem to be seeing someone who makes you happy, but it should cause you concern that you’ve been with at least two men who can’t let go. I’m in no way blaming you, the crazy behavior by these men is theirs alone, but it seems that you have a pattern of choosing certain kinds of men. I would really ask that in the interest of your safety, you pick up a copy for gof.

AvidReaderJune 6th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

“You think he’d take the hint…” Actually, no, I don’t think he’d take the hint. Guys like this dont’t get the message when you’re blunt. Much less when you toy around just saying, “get out, or I call the cops.”
I do agree with people telling you to call the police, but you make no mention of keeping record of his behavior or visits. If you haven’t done that, you won’t ger far. In a perfect world, creepy guys like this get arrested on the spot. However, with no proof, you’ll be lucky if they just call the guy. Please start recording his visits. Get proof that he was there. Stop flushing and throwing away the evidence. This guy stalked you home. The fact that you haven’t done anything yet is scary.

BackwoodsJune 6th, 2012 at 4:41 pm

I’m going to chime in with the other commenters here, OP. This is NOT normal behavior. This guy is not normal. That makes him dangerous. Not just to you, either. I can guarantee you aren’t the only woman he’s pulled this on, and he won’t stop with you. You’ll be helping other women by making a police report. When you have that conversation with the police, you’ll most likely learn from them that he has a history of doing this. Heck, you might learn details that’ll turn your hair grey from fear.

Help the cops (and other probable victims of him) build a case. Report him.

C D PlayneJune 6th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

Agree wholeheartedly with @AvidReader – Record, record, record. Keep all the evidence you can.

I think a lot of us have been in situations where you reeaaally didn’t want to get the other party “in trouble”.

I’m thinking back to my grade school days when a teacher asked me to “rat out” a schoolmate bully. The young man had had several run-ins and regularly mocked classmates to challenge him. As the teacher spoke to me about him, he motioned that he “would to beat me up” Took some courage, but I merely shrugged my shoulders at him. And indeed, he may have been able to beat me up, but I wasn’t going to let him intimidate me for what I knew was for the betterment of that school environment. He was expelled shortly thereafter.

Your personal safety (and secure home environment) is so much more worthwhile (and paramount) than passively trying to hope or wish him away.

Good luck….and please be safe!

GreenVelvetCakeJune 6th, 2012 at 5:33 pm

he’d driven around my area until he’d recognized my car, followed it back to my place and followed me into the building.
He managed to talk his way into my apartment

Holy hell – this dude followed you home and you let him in your apartment? Why??

joJune 6th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

SO.. that was last night but it’s been a year?

mhmJune 6th, 2012 at 9:56 pm

what a weirdo. clearly he was only for sex. he’d screw u, dump u and move one to the next. hey that rhymes! lol. anyhoo i’m glad u learned ur lesson…

EdhlaJune 7th, 2012 at 1:49 am

WTF? He followed you home and you let him in and hinted you had to be up early in the morning?

Why on earth didn’t you call the cops?

MaxxyJune 7th, 2012 at 7:27 am

This story took me past the point of “that’s awful! poor you!” to “are you serious?” when you changed into your pajamas while a creepy guy who refused to leave was hanging around your apartment.

DeeJune 7th, 2012 at 11:39 am

The lesson isn’t “don’t bring guys home before the 6 mo. mark,” it’s “when you want him to know something TELL HIM, DON’T DROP SUBTLE HINTS.” And call the cops, the first time he starts to stalk you.

Maggie MayJune 7th, 2012 at 5:43 pm

@Jo, I think she meant that it’s been a year since she last heard from him – up until last night.

MonicaJune 8th, 2012 at 2:20 am

This is not a “very bad date”.

This is a guy who is gonna rape you.

Please, please call the police. Seriously.

maoJune 8th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

@Maggie May & Jo, actually, I think OP meant it’s been a year since their last actual date. 6 months ago she changed her number because a different psycho, 2 months ago this guy showed up at her house and talked his way in, and last night she flushed his chocolate.

MagdeburgizationJune 10th, 2012 at 11:50 am

OP, you need to put me in contact with this guy so he can teach me whatever super powers he used to “somehow talk his way into [your] apartment”. I’m guessing he used some kind of telepathy or spinning eyes like the snake in “The Jungle Book”. I promise I will only use the powers for good.

jahnSeptember 20th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

You should not flush cat feces down the toilet. Studies are showing that toxoplasmosis, a parasite found in cat feces, has infected marine mammals and otters. The same parasite that can cause birth defects in humans, which is why pregnant women are warned not to come in contact with cat feces. Toxoplasmosis cannot be destroyed by sewage treatment, and therefore escapes into our waterways, where crabs and starfish will feed on it, thus jeopardizing the health of other marine mammals who feed on the crabs and starfish. Toxoplasmosis can cause brain damage and death in sea otters. Most (if not all) litter manufacturers warn on their packaging not to flush feces or litter down the toilet, and that is the reason

JessicaDecember 3rd, 2012 at 8:35 am

umm… can you please let us know that you’re ok???

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