Joe The Jumper

Many years ago, I worked as a copy person for a newspaper. I spent most of my work hours in the city room, or on errands around the city. While security wasn’t very strict in those days, there was a security camera that watched over the city room. The cameras were monitored by security guards, and any stray people that hung out by the guards’ desk. The female population of the city room was often the subject of discussion by the guards, truck drivers, and pressmen.

One person that was checking me out was a guy known as Joe the jumper. Before you assume that his name had anything to do with perversions, you need to understand that his job was that of a “jumper”. He was the guy that leaped off the back of the newspaper delivery truck, filling the boxes or dropping bundles of papers.

He had noticed me on the security cameras and had seen me zipping around the building on errands. We’d smile and nod in passing. When he approached me, my impression was favorable. He was in his 20s, had brown hair, and was pleasant looking. He asked if I’d like to have dinner and we set up a date later that week. Since we both worked night shifts, dinner was going to be during our work break. We decided to go to a Chinese restaurant a couple miles from downtown. He drove us there in his car, a blue Gremlin.

Dinner went okay. There wasn’t anything magical about the evening. More like two co-workers getting to know each other. The conversation was a bit odd because it often turned to famous people that Joe was good friends with. I was naive and initially took the conversation at face value, but the name-dropping continued to a ridiculous level. I finally figured he was bullshitting me when he talked about hanging out backstage with Joni Mitchell.

I didn’t call him on the nonsense he was spouting, figuring he just wanted to make an impression. Our date ended, as we both needed to return to work. He called the next day while I was at work. I assumed it was just a thanks for the date kind of call, but he then informed me that he was in a local mental hospital. His parents had committed him that morning. There was that momentary thought of, “Wow. I have the power to drive men mad.” When I asked why his parents had locked him in the loony bin, he told me that it was because he was a Weathermen and his parents didn’t approve. (The Weathermen was an underground, radical student organization from the 60s and 70s.) I assumed this was more of his bullshit, he was delusional, and had a break with reality.

This, of course, was the death knell for any future dates. I discussed the date and Joe’s subsequent committal with the women I worked with. While chatting about Joe, I happened to mention that he drove a blue Gremlin.

During this time period, there was a serial killer in our city. The killer targeted young boys, and while there was very little information to go on, the public had been warned to watch for a blue Gremlin, driven by a “person of interest.”

As we sat there, thinking about the blue Gremlin, and Joe’s tenuous grasp of reality, it occurred to us that Joe might be the killer. One of my coworkers went to the police reporter and shared our suspicions; the reporter went and talked to the police.

I never spoke with Joe again, but I heard that the police checked him out thoroughly. Happily, he wasn’t the serial killer; he had been in the mental hospital during one of the murders, so he had an air-tight alibi. Getting cleared by the police still didn’t tempt me to rekindle any relationship.

Comments (25)
NattieJuly 30th, 2012 at 5:47 am

How scary would that have been if he were the serial killer?

That aside, I knew a guy like him in high school… I literally think he had convinced himself that he was friends with a ton of famous people (and various other lies.)

JayJuly 30th, 2012 at 6:47 am

When I remove all the stuff that had nothing to do with the date (for example, the first two paragraphs), this whole story comes down to about 3 sentences. Guy from work asked me on a date. It was nothing special, but he was obviously lying with his name dropping. Next day he told me he was in a mental hospital. Oh, and he wasn’t a serial killer.

So I guess that’s 4 sentence, once you include what he wasn’t.

JJuly 30th, 2012 at 7:54 am

The OP bashers such as “Jay” add nothing to the conversation. I thought it was a well-written aand indeed scary story, thanks OP. The extra details add setting and character – part of what storytelling is about. I have to wonder if Jay is the type who reads the Cliffs Notes and never wonders whether the real thing was any better…

EllenJuly 30th, 2012 at 7:58 am

Good job Jay, you know how to summarize!

AudaxJuly 30th, 2012 at 8:14 am

Glad you escaped the crazy, OP.

chrisaJuly 30th, 2012 at 8:17 am

all i could think of while reading the last bit, was ted bundy and his gold volkswagon.

RattusJuly 30th, 2012 at 8:40 am

Wow. This just brought to mind a guy I had a huge crush on in high school who did turn out to be a serial rapist. I am so glad that I will never have to date again.

TillieJuly 30th, 2012 at 8:46 am

Jay, you’re right. I sure do hate it when writers bother to set the scene, develop characters, or include more detail than could fit on a post-it. *eyeroll*

Moby Dick, for example! Pfft. Once you took out all the stuff the didn’t matter it was basically just three sentences. There was a guy whose leg got eaten by a whale. He was pretty bent about it. The whale eventually ate all of him. The whale was a white serial killer. Well, I guess that’s four once you include that last bit about the whale.

Audax PreventionJuly 30th, 2012 at 9:57 am

A blue Gremlin? His whip is out (of style, that is).

BaconatoratorJuly 30th, 2012 at 10:15 am

Going to a first-date dinner at a Chinese restaurant is like being a Barbarian in Hero Quest: no magic whatsoever.

rubyJuly 30th, 2012 at 10:25 am

Awesome, Tillie. Seriously. Who really does like character development or backstory? If only all stories were written this way, it would have saved me a lot of time. Time to do more important things. You know, like the internet.

JayJuly 30th, 2012 at 10:41 am

@Tillie (etc): If it was a long story, great, set some characters. In this case, it sets a scene and characters and then completely drops them. There was no relevence to the fact that she worked at a newspaper, or that this guy was a “jumper”. If there WAS relevence, great. Keep it in. If not, it’s just padding.

Meanwhile, I think every story on here should include several paragraphs about what the poster does for a living even when it’s irrelevent to the date, and a closing section that maybe the date drove a car that was being sought after by the police, but it really wasn’t him. That way, all stories will get better!

JayJuly 30th, 2012 at 10:43 am

And as for Moby Dick, did you know that when Capt. Ahab was a kid, he once spent several days mending a fence? No? That’s too bad, because it would’ve enhanced the book a lot! Also, Ishmael had a harpoon that looked like one a criminal had, but it wasn’t him.

“Moby Dick” this was not.

EnlightenedDaisyJuly 30th, 2012 at 10:46 am

Dear op I have always heard the song the weathermen by dead Sara and it never made any sense until now lol thank you for that!!!

DeeJuly 30th, 2012 at 11:26 am

I didn’t finish Moby Dick, but I did finish this date story.

AudaxJuly 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

@Audax Prevention: Find another name.

AppleJuly 30th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

I personally enjoyed the background information, so much so that I am dying to know what a “city room” is and why it is so fascinating for male employees to watch the security video of female employees in this “city room”? Makes me think of “Mad Men” but News instead of Advertising.

laurenJuly 30th, 2012 at 5:07 pm

I think the details about the city room and the cctv was interesting and relevant. Just because the site is called MVWD doesn’t mean the story has to be stripped down to the raw basics of the date itself. It’s not like it’s even that long.

Audax PreventionJuly 31st, 2012 at 10:34 am

@Audax: My name has a meaning. It’s the one Mrs. Prevention gave me. And also I’m calling out your ridiculous tendency to bring up “whipping it out” in the story’s comments.

TillieJuly 31st, 2012 at 10:46 am

Baconatorator, that’s 50 XP for the Hero Quest reference. :)

LurkerJuly 31st, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Much like Rattus, this reminds me of a charming fellow from high school. We decided to go on a date, and then the next day he excitedly told me about his impending initiation into the Klu Klux Klan. I later found out that he got kicked out of school because he was keeping a hit list, and he enjoyed making homemade bombs and blowing up swans/other such water fowl with them in his free-time.

But at least he wasn’t a serial killer.

blondieAugust 1st, 2012 at 3:15 am

I think it would be useful to know how many “many years ago” this story took place. If it was in the 90′s or after when nobody had this car, then the green gremlin thing is pretty terrifying. If it was in the late 70′s or early 80′s, not so much. That’s like saying the killer is driving a blue Civic.

Also, I had to go look up “Jumper” on Urban Dictionary because I had no clue how that term would be considered perverse. Is this really a term that people use? Am I just totally old and unhip and not down with the kids’ lingo these days?

europeanAugust 2nd, 2012 at 1:45 am

what blondie said……..joni mitchell’s still alive?

zombiesushiAugust 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 am

This reminds me of a story my mom told me about only in hers the guy turned out to be Ted Bundy. Im glad your date turned out to be a regular crazy person and not a serial killer:)

JeffAugust 2nd, 2012 at 3:23 pm

‘There was that momentary thought of, “Wow. I have the power to drive men mad.”’

Did you REALLY have that thought at the time or did you think of it later? Still funny either way.

From a criminology perspective, having an alibi for one murder doesn’t mean he wasn’t the serial killer. Sometimes copycat killers are responsible for murders that initially appear to be part of the serial killer’s string.

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