Caught In The Lie

I’ve been single for a couple years after getting out of a crummy long term relationship and had been casually dating from various internet sources. Mostly, things had gone well but I hadn’t really found a guy to get serious about. I started talking to a fellow I’ll call Poltroon. This guy seemed normal and we had a lot in common. Our electronic communications were engaging and a lot of fun. I had a few things going on that prevented us from meeting in person for the first few weeks but he was really understanding about it. Our first date, over coffee, lasted over five hours. Good chemistry and good conversation abounded. We just really clicked and things were off and running.

Poltroon and I were talking every day via email, text, or phone calls. We were both busy people and got together a little less than weekly, but it suited us both just fine. We talked about everything. He very clearly stated that he was single, never been married and had no children. I’m 30 and he’s 41, so while that is not entirely expected, it didn’t really raise any red flags either. He was a little evasive about previous relationships but I chalked it up to not wanting to dig into the nitty, gritty, drama of a bad relationship too soon. I feel similarly and don’t like to put all that stuff out there until I feel secure in how it’s going to be received. I didn’t push too much but I did feel like there was something he wasn’t telling me. We had been seeing each other and talking every day for over a month when MVWD struck.

We planned a lunch date for a weekday that we both had available. It, like every other date to this point, was great. We were finishing up lunch and discussing going for a walk in a popular local park that we both wanted to check out. I started getting phone bombed by a local number that I didn’t recognize. He stepped away to use the restroom and I decided to take the call in case someone had changed a phone number or there was some other emergency. The person blowing up my phone introduced herself as Mrs. Poltroon and wanted to know: did I know that he was married and had three kids?

At that moment, I felt like someone could have knocked me over with a feather. I was completely shocked and just couldn’t have anticipated this turn of events. Poltroon returned to the table while I was speaking to his wife. I was saying things like, “I had no idea Poltroon was married,” “I apologize for this and I absolutely don’t date married men,” and “No, I won’t be dating a married man now or in the future.” He stood there speechless as I got off the phone, picked up my purse, and walked out of the restaurant to ask him a couple of questions regarding his marital status. He sheepishly followed me outside, if there’s ever an actual expression that could be described as “hangdog” this was it.

I asked him the two most relevant questions at that moment: “Are you married?” and “Do you have three kids?” As one would expect from a man called Poltroon, he reluctantly admitted to having three kids (which he had previously denied existing) but that he and his wife were divorced. My response to that was that I would need to see a divorce decree to verify that statement. He then amended his statement that they were separated but “in the process.”  In my opinion being separated is still married.

At that moment, I watched in utter shock as a car zoomed over a sidewalk and drove into the building next door to the restaurant parking lot, about 100 feet from where we were standing. I think my exact words were, “What the hell is happening today!? Unbelievable.”

Poltroon apologized for causing me trouble and that he would deal with his wife. The coda to MVWD is that his wife continued to call and text me for the next 48 hours. I started to feel seriously threatened and contacted Poltroon to see if he could intervene. He was very apologetic for the episode and offered the kinds of explanations that one might expect about being separated and not wanting to bring drama into my life. At this point, I couldn’t care less about either of them and just wanted to be left alone. I don’t need a lying poltroon or his harassing harpy of an (ex?) wife bothering me. I’ve maintained all of her phone and text messages in case the authorities need to be contacted.

Comments (31)
ahmemoriesAugust 7th, 2012 at 5:05 am

lol. this reminds me of when my parents were separated my dad went out on dates to get his mack on while still legally married on my mom. however she didn’t act like this wife, harassing the dates & so forth. sounds like both are crazies. and i learned a new word!

ShalamarAugust 7th, 2012 at 5:47 am

What did the car driving into the building have to do with your date being a lying scumbag?

AlonzoAugust 7th, 2012 at 5:57 am

Unless it was wifey trying to end it all for all three of them! But alas . . .

TillieAugust 7th, 2012 at 6:31 am

Until this point in my life I had no idea that poltroon was a word. Now I’ll have to find an excuse to use it!

NattieAugust 7th, 2012 at 7:06 am

Also confused about the driving into the building. That wasn’t his ex-wife, was it?

Such a bs excuse about “not wanting to bring drama into your life…” any parent who lies about having children is scum.

LiLoAugust 7th, 2012 at 8:28 am

I am with Tillie! Vocabulary expanded!

baronvonfancypantsAugust 7th, 2012 at 8:31 am

Was his name Kilgore Trout?

Drinky the Drunk GirlAugust 7th, 2012 at 9:25 am

This guy is a douche, but you guys know that people don’t file divorce papers the second they split, right? My friends have been separated over 3 years but are still married. Why? She needs health care. Hard to tell your kids there mom can’t take care of them because dad took away her health care. Sooooo, not sure why people that are moving in the direction of breaking up their marriage are still considered married in the loving couple sense. Kinda stupid, really. I guess it depends on if you think relationships are emotional, or a contract that must be followed.

AudaxAugust 7th, 2012 at 9:47 am

The car didn’t really belong there, but good story anyway.

OPAugust 7th, 2012 at 10:27 am

In regard to the car accident not belonging to the relevant details of MVWD, I agree. However, it actually did happen that way and the shock of MVWD coupled with the shock of witnessing a strange car accident made it just a surreal, strange date that ended the weirdest way possible. It was unrelated but it’s what helped knock my worst date into ridiculous, can’t make this crap up, levels. Also, I love sharing good vocabulary words. Glad to be able to spread the love. Please use poltroon at every opportunity.

Currer BellAugust 7th, 2012 at 12:09 pm

I think the car thing was something random that happened at that moment. Maybe it wasn’t specifically related to Poltroon, but it did contribute to the string of badness that was the date. Kind of like getting a run in your pantyhose, and then there’s a traffic jam, and then the boss is early, and then you spill coffee on your desk, etc.

reviewAugust 7th, 2012 at 1:28 pm

You screwed up by staying in contact with the guy, asking him to deal with the wife when you felt “seriously threatened”. It’s pretty telling that there’s more to this story than you’ve written, when you prefer calling a liar for your safety than the proper authorities.

It’s safe to say that you know neither how nor when to walk away from a situation that you shouldn’t be in. The story starts with you just getting out of a crummy “long term” relationship! The signs are there that you were continuing contact with the married person.

For instance why ask to see a divorce decree? What would that change, in the scheme of you ditching his lying, 3 kids-having arse? With or without the official divorce, it was time to leave him.
And then why would he tell you that he would “deal with his wife”? What would you care what he does, since you’re (supposed to be) leaving him, hmm?
You’ve tried to make it seem like the wife continued to message you for no reason, but then you’re continuing to call and talk to the husband.

Personally I think, forget about the guy’s side of this story, I want to hear the wife’s version.

JeffAugust 7th, 2012 at 2:55 pm

“In my opinion being separated is still married.”

That’s not just your opinion, OP. That’s fact. I can’t believe how many people I see trying to date while they are “separated” but still married. Even when they are being honest about it, why on earth would anyone want to add themselves to that kind of situation?

It seems to me that if you are separated/divorcing, you are experiencing the results of some bad decisions. Don’t make some new third person suffer for those bad decisions.

OPAugust 7th, 2012 at 3:34 pm

@baronvonfancypants good reference! vonnegut FTW.
@review Perhaps I could have gone straight to the police for a protection order and gotten a lawyer to send a cease and desist letter. I was trying to be a decent human being and resolve the issue without contacting the authorities, give these people the opportunity to figure themselves out and leave me the heck out of it. I only spoke with her husband when she continued to harass me. If she had left me alone he would have never heard from me again. Since her contact has stopped I want nothing to do with either of them. When I mentioned the divorce decree it was to call his bluff about being divorced and as evidenced by his back tracking, it worked. It was the first thing that came to mind in the moment when I was shocked by the revelation. Hindsight being 20/20 the writing was on the wall but I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. I, for one, can’t imagine starting a relationship where you question everything your partner tells you without evidence of their deception. I don’t doubt that my willingness to take his word for things contributed to MVWD but I didn’t try to step out on my spouse and lie about the significant details of my life. I think I conducted myself pretty well, all things considered.

AvidReaderAugust 7th, 2012 at 3:42 pm

review, how is 2 years out of a bad relationship “just” getting out of it?
OP only called the husband because the wife was still blowing up her phone with texts and calls. I don’t know what magical land you live in, but where I’m from, the police won’t do anything if someone is harassing you via phone alone. If anything, OP should have just changed her phone number.

Hindsight is always 20/20, this isn’t exactly a situation everyone finds themselves is, OP probably didn’t know how to handle it.

AvidReaderAugust 7th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

OP, you beat me to it!

reviewAugust 7th, 2012 at 11:40 pm

@OP I see that you’re still trying to pass it off as the guy’s fault: “I only spoke with her husband when she continued to harass me.” Right, his wife forced you to call him back! How much hindsight do you need to see that you should not have been calling him?

@AvidReader: Live up to your name for once. Read my post all over again and show me where I said OP should call the po-po. Here, I’ll reiterate for you: “It’s pretty telling that there’s more to this story than you’ve written, when you prefer calling a liar for your safety than the proper authorities.” I’ve pointed out what her preference is.

RattusAugust 8th, 2012 at 5:37 am

OP, feel free to ignore review. He is an ill-natured idiot.

SallyWordSlingerAugust 8th, 2012 at 7:17 am

I freaking hate hate hate married guys who do this. It happened to me once. He looked me right in the face and said “I’m NOT married!” He was indignant that I had even accused him of such a crime. Then I ran into him and his wife and family, at church no less, where they were presenting their baby to the congregation to be welcomed and blessed. The look on his face when he saw me was priceless.

MimiAugust 8th, 2012 at 8:06 am

I actually kind of consider 41 and never-married a warning sign; one thing my mother’s post-divorce dating has taught me is that if a man is single over 45, there is usually a reason for that.

reviewAugust 8th, 2012 at 9:49 am

@Rattus: That would be ironic for OP to run and hide from the truth, wouldn’t it? Considering she dubbed the guy Poltroon. Keep trying to give advice, though.

OPAugust 8th, 2012 at 11:32 am

@review. You’re entitled to your opinion. The proof, for me, is in the pudding. It worked. They both left me alone after I emailed requesting the contact stop. I didn’t have to involve the police or lawyers and was able to continue my life without being pestered until you decided to troll MVWD post. I’m glad you feel some solidarity with a jilted wife. I felt bad for her myself. It must be hell having to chase down a guy who doesn’t want to be with you and has an affinity for lying through his teeth. I maintain my previous statement, I conducted myself pretty well and am glad things didn’t escalate. Please feel free to move on and criticize someone else’s life, I’m all good over here.

AvidReaderAugust 8th, 2012 at 3:14 pm

review, generally when people say “authorities”, they mean the cops. My point was that even if her preference was “calling the proper authorities”, it may not have done a thing. Calling the husband may have been her best bet.
I also like how you completely skipped over my question as to how 2 years out of a bad relationship is “just” out of it.

AvidReaderAugust 8th, 2012 at 3:43 pm

review, my point was that even if her preference were to call the “proper authorities” (which usually means the po-po), they may not have done a thing. Calling the husband may have been her best bet.
I also like how you ignored my question as to how 2 years out of a bad relationship is “just” out of it.

AvidReaderAugust 8th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Haha, my first comment wasn’t showing up, so I try again, and they both show up!

RattusAugust 8th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

@review, it would be if that’s what she did, but she didn’t. She got the job done without running to the “proper authorities”.

Why are you so chronically unpleasant? It must be incredibly tiresome for the people in your actual life given how tiresome it is for those of us who only occasionally have to read your nonsense on the interwebs.

reviewAugust 9th, 2012 at 6:12 am

@AvidReader: wtf another person saying calling the husband might be the best bet? The best bet for causing more drama. You obviously don’t know what you’re doing here, and just throwing out ideas of action: “she should change her number”, no wait, “calling the husband might be best”.

You’re just grasping at straws here. So “I also like” how you want to argue over a definition for “just”. First of all, the OP’s exact words were “a couple years”, which you assume meant 2 here. Simply put the word has no exact definition, so “a couple years” in the life of a 30 year old is just a short time.

Now let’s get back to the part where you failed to find me saying OP should call the po-po/authorities/whatever you want to call them. My question wasn’t about nomenclature, it’s this: did I say OP should call the proper authorities? You keep reading.

@Rattus: Haha you ask why am I unpleasant? Look at who’s calling who an idiot in here. And you expect me to be pleasant…Keep up the name calling girl, that never gets tiresome for you. Fact is I’m just (uh oh, AvidReader is gonna blow a gasket) trying to improve OP’s life by making her think about her actions and the consequences they’ve had in her life. Instead, she thinks the ends (which benefited her) justify the means.

MonicaAugust 9th, 2012 at 8:38 am

Review, you’re a troll and an asshole.

Please STFU.

JeffAugust 10th, 2012 at 2:50 am

@review: You are technically correct, but the fact that you are making such a huge whopping deal out of something that really isn’t suggests a far more personal motivation than you are willing to admit. Forgive us if we doubt your altruism.

RattusAugust 10th, 2012 at 6:21 am

@review. That should be “Look at who’s calling WHOM an idiot in here.”

AlisonAugust 16th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

A Charlotte Bronte impersonator is commenting here.

Day: Made.

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