When The Goggles Come Off

When I was 21 I met this cocktail waitress. I can’t remember her name, so I will call her Beatrice. I met Beatrice at a bar at about midnight. I was fairly drunk when I hit on her and thought she was very attractive. After chatting her up for a while, I asked her out and she gave me her number.

It took me about two weeks to get Beatrice to go on a date, but finally she agreed to go to a baseball game. I had spent a considerable amount of time and money getting tickets to this baseball game. They included free beer and an all-you-can-eat dinner. I went to pick up Beatrice and she did not look like I remembered at all. When meeting her for the first time I must have had the worst case of ‘beer goggles’ ever, because the girl who I picked up was not attractive. Beatrice was not ugly, but I would have never considered her pretty or hit on her. Her face was bright red and covered with freckles, she also had a nose that looked like someone had glued a wedge of pita bread to a skull. Beatrice also had skin peeling from her forehead and nose and foundation on her cheeks that looked like someone had smeared it on with a butter knife. So lets just say, either I have terrible beer goggles or someone was playing the ole switcheroo on me.

Regardless of Beatrice’s looks, being the gentleman that I am, I took her to the ball game. We get there and I informed her about the included beer and food, on which I had spent over $100. We were both poor college students, so $100 was a lot to me back then. Beatrice then informed me that she does not drink beer or eat meat. Most of the food was meat (brats, hotdogs, hamburger, grilled chicken etc.), so Beatrice had a dinner of baked beans and sauerkraut. Even though I didn’t know she was a vegetarian, she blamed the lack of dinner fare on me.

I tried to make conversation and told her about my biology studies, family, etc, but all Beatrice wanted to talk about was professional wrestling. I thought she was joking at first, but she was totally serious. What 22-year-old woman watches professional wrestling religiously? As the conversations continued to die, all I wanted to do was run. I neither wanted to sleep with this girl, or hear another idiotic word come out of her mouth, so I devised a plan.

I called my friend S and asked him to meet me at a bar and to bring his friend Ryan. Ryan was always jealous of the girls I would date and would constantly hit on them to no avail. So I asked Beatrice if she wanted to go to a bar and meet my friends – she gladly agreed. We got to the bar and I introduced her to my friend S and his friend Ryan. Shortly after, I excused myself to the bathroom and took my sweet time. As I expected, when I came out, Ryan was talking to Beatrice. I texted my friend and snuck out the back of the bar in search of women that aren’t obsessed with professional wrestling.

I later got a text from her saying “Thanks for ditching me, at least I am having fun with your friend Ryan.”

Comments (66)
EmilyAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:12 am

I know it’s pretty typical for everyone to bash the OP, but in this cause I really do feel a bit sorry for the date. She got hit on by a guy, he asked her out on a date to a baseball game. When he gets there he surprises her with food and drink, but it’s not really what she likes so she’s stuck looking like a fussy eater just because he didn’t think to ask beforehand, and he doesn’t find anything she talks about interesting. Not only that, he then ditches her completely with his mates and – unbeknownst to her – writes a story about how ugly she is on the internet. Ouch.

rubyAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:14 am

Douche. That is all.

LiLoAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:33 am

Sir…I normally DON’T OP bash…but you are a douchecanoe.

AudaxAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:39 am

Well, he was 21 years old at the time.

I don’t know about the rest of the women on here but when a guy who asked me out mentions the cost of things well before the check comes I pay him the total cost of my being there immediately.

Always take financial responsibility of yourself, girls. Don’t ever demand that a man pay for you. Now, because I have paid and he’s not displaying the ability (and/or the desire) to take care of me (people take care of one another when in a romantic relationship) the outing is no longer considered a romantic date. He has effectively friendzoned himself.

Notice I said “well before”. There’s such a thing as “oops, that bottle of champagne was $150, not $50″ or “argh, I left my debit card in my other tux!” Keep in mind that such excuses have a very, very short shelf life.

So yeah, OP, that’s how a woman with a brain works. Hopefully you are much older and wiser now. Perhaps if you had acted in a more gentlemanly manner, you could have made a friend. If I was Beatrice I would have left and gotten a salad.

DevAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:41 am

It seems to me that YOU were the very worst date. I don’t care that you didn’t have an common interests, you were a douche for ditching her. I hope your friend was decent enough to make sure she got back to her place safely. And, when planning a date, always ask if they are vegetarian and this is exactly why. You essentially ordered for her without knowing her dietary limits.

baronvonfancypantsAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:50 am

Yup.
Duh-hoosh!

NellyAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:51 am

Exactly. OP was in the wrong here and blamed poor Beatrice. And yes i loved watching professional wrestling when i was 22 and i still do. Its entertainment. Same reason why guys watch football

AvidReaderAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:57 am

I don’t really consider the OP to be a douche. He may not have asked about her eating choices, but she didn’t mention them either. He at least gave the chick a chance, and found out they didn’t have anything in common. On top of that, how many female OP’s pull the same ‘call a friend to dtch the date’ card? At least she had some fun with OPs friend despite the decieving beginning.

ShalamarAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:10 am

My daughters are vegetarians, and I’m pretty sure they would’ve mentioned this to OP if they’d known that he’d planned to eat dinner during the game. Beatrice probably assumed that, if dinner was to be had at all, it would happen afterwards and she could bring up the “by the way, I don’t eat meat” thing then.

Also, a lot of men I know would think they’d died and gone to heaven if a date knew all about professional wrestling. :)

reviewAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:19 am

I usually don’t bash the OP, BUT (there’s that word!) Beatrice should have given you a short clothesline then powerbombed you onto the Megatouch games at the bar.

But wait; was she talking about Ring Of Honor and independent local wrestling federations, or that WWE-crap? If it was just WWE, then you should have reversed it and hurricanrana’d her.

It’s a heel turn! Team OP for life!

blondieAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:40 am

I think the OP’s first major error was putting down $100 for a first date. That’s just stupid, especially if he didn’t bother asking her ahead of time if she’d be game for the thing he was spending the money on.

MackenzieAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:42 am

What a douche. Sure, she could have mentioned she was a vegetarian, but how could she also anticipate the guy would take her to an all-meat extravaganza? That’s a weird choice for a date, even if you’re sure the person is an omnivore.

And he might’ve been 21 then, but he clearly isn’t anymore, so that doesn’t excuse blaming her for his mistake in asking out a woman he wasn’t attracted to.

KayAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:51 am

I love that, with the obvious apparent bad behavior on the OP’s part, he considers himself a gentleman…
Gentlemen don’t bitch about a women’s looks after drunkly asking her out and then regretting it later. Or whine about a someone’s passion. Or act like a cowardly sleaze and try to sneak out without telling her that he wasn’t interested.
I guess being a “gentleman” doesn’t mean you have to stay after you decide to take her out…

CatherineAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:53 am

I hope the OP learned his lesson. Don’t ask anyone out while intoxicated. I think I know why this girl was hesitant on going out with him. He did mention that it took two weeks to get together with her. She probably knew she was not his type and the only reason he hit on her was because he was drunk. So in all fairness she is particially at fault but she is or was young. She should have just turned him down instead of wasting her time with him.

TraceyAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:54 am

When a date is not working out, the kind thing to do is bring it to an end…without dumping the date off on someone else. You were the VWD in this story, OP, and your friend was just as graceless as you were.

PsycheAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:56 am

While I do agree that ditching her was a dick move, it was also a dick move on the date’s part to not inform him that she was a vegetarian and babble on a subject the guy has no interest in. I’d say that they were both in the wrong here

AIPAugust 15th, 2012 at 10:58 am

Christ, what charm school spat this piece of work out?

BettyAugust 15th, 2012 at 11:32 am

OP, you’re a dickweed.

NattieAugust 15th, 2012 at 11:34 am

@ Audax – exactly.

1) Beatrice loses points for continuously talking about a subject in which OP has no interest, for improperly wearing foundation (a personal pet peeve,) and for being rude about the lack of vegetarian food.

OP loses points for..
1) Choosing an expensive date and complaining about it (why not just ask her out for coffee?) Yes, Beatrice should have offered to pay for her half, but maybe she was a poor college student too – why not just choose something you both can easily afford?

2) not asking Beatrice her food preferences/allergies etc. Unless OP mentioned that there was a fixed-course dinner served at the ballgame, Beatrice likely assumed that any eating would be done by ordering from a concession stand or going to a restaurant, in which case she could easily pick her own vegetarian food (even steakhouses have salads, and hotdog stands have chips.)

3) For ditching her at a bar (why was that necessary? why not just take her home immediately afterwards? And if you really HAD to ditch her with Ryan, why not at least make up a lame excuse?)

RattusAugust 15th, 2012 at 12:08 pm

I have been a fairly regular OP basher, so I feel quite comfortable doing it again. OP, you’re a douche, and I’m quite certain that you are equally as boring as Beatrice, whom, I will wager, you would have considered to be fascinating on the subject of wrestling if she had been a tall, blonde, large-breasted carnivore.

McDivaAugust 15th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

@Nattie, I totally agree. There’s no reason in the world Beatrice would have needed to tell him about being a veggie in advance of going to a ball game. There are always non-meat (and non-beer) options at the concessions stands. It was presumptuous of him to make the assumption that the food he pre-bought for her would be appropriate/to her taste, and stupid of him to spend so much money when he didn’t have it to spend, and then be annoyed when it didn’t work out the way it did in his head (which I imagine included her looking like Angelina Jolie and giving him a BJ on the drive home after the game).

maoAugust 15th, 2012 at 12:35 pm

What Nattie said. I’m afraid I also have to jump on the OP bashing bandwagon.

Seriously, if you seriously thought “she’s not ugly, just not my type,” then SAY “JUST NOT MY TYPE.” Don’t parade the PC line and the switch to describe your date in the most unflattering ways possible half way through. Know what that proves? That you think she’s ugly! Don’t lie about your feelings just to make yourself look better.

And when you realized that she’s not as attractive as you thought, end the date. Some people will call you shallow to ditch someone based on looks alone, but your preference is your preference. What you did was calling up your annoying friend and go, “oh he’s SO jealous of me he always hits on my dates, so I’m gonna see if he’s gonna go after the girl who’s not good enough for me! I’ll show him!”

You’re a douche, OP, and if you think people don’t notice how high of an opinion you have of yourself (which is a delusion, by the way), you’re wrong, because we see it, plain and simple.

KTAugust 15th, 2012 at 12:41 pm

OP, you are in no way a gentleman.

SkadeAugust 15th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

My beergoggles have gotten me in troubles more times than I’d like to admit, so I can relate to the dissapointment you feel when mr/ms dreamy turns out to be mr/ms weird and blotty. But I can’t relate to the douchyness of the OP following that. The ordering of food without asking her, the being put off by not being allowed to control the conversation, and then the ditching, seems uncalled for. Also, I like freckles.

Dr. CheeseAugust 15th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

OP here. I think some of you may have missed the point of the story. I wasn’t in anyway saying that it was not a douche move to ditch the girl at a bar. The point of the story is that beer goggles can be dangerous to everyone involved. Neither one of us were looking for some sort of fairy-tail romance and wound up with a very bad date. Ryan was not a friend and I did not like him. The plot I devised was to have him ‘pick her up’ since he would try to steal away any girl I was with. I didn’t like either of them (she had some very bad personal qualities as well which I left out to make the story simpler: borderline racist comments) so I knew they would flirt, she would be too busy listening to a guy who would pretend to be interested in her bullshit and Ryan would think he was ‘stealing’ some girl away from me.

This story occurred around 10 years ago and yes I have grown up a lot since then. Everyone does dumb things when they are in college… and believe me this is one is G rated compared to some of the other crap I have done. Currently I am a well known scientist in my field, married, kids on the way and live in one of the most beautiful places on earth (I can’t really say much more for anonymity sake). One bad date does not define my life or personality so Rattus and other bashers can S a D. The story is a bad date story not a biography.

Sally Word MercenaryAugust 15th, 2012 at 1:01 pm

Rattus, I find it so funny that “douche” has come back into vogue, in a whole new way. I mean, did you ever think you’d be calling some 21-year old punk a “douche” without blushing! LOL!

To the OP, Dr. Cheese: I thought you did ok. You didn’t bail on the date until it was gone past the point of no return.

What I really want to know is what a nose like a wedge of pita looked like.

Dr. CheeseAugust 15th, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Also I was being facetious by saying I was a gentleman….thought that would have been obvious.

RattusAugust 15th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

@Sally, I was quite happy when the word came back into less specific usage. It brings back happy memories of my teen years.

Dr. CheeseAugust 15th, 2012 at 1:06 pm

@ Sally
Like a really thin dry triangle shaped nose, too thin for her face. I couldn’t really think of a better description and was trying to emphasize my lack of judgement when asking her out and the realization of what she looked like when I was sober.

RavenAugust 15th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

Considering that OP was too drunk to remember what Beatrice even looked like, it’s entirely possible she did mention her vegetarianism to him and he didn’t recall.

Pre-buying food is always a bad idea if you don’t know the person super-well.

Talking about something that’s not interesting to the other person is boring. (OP didn’t like wrestling; maybe Beatrice didn’t like science?)

In any case, clearly these two people didn’t hit it off, which is not a big deal. Dick move for ditching her though, as everyone else has said.

rubyAugust 15th, 2012 at 2:21 pm

Haha. That would be funny if I knew you, Dr cheese…

baronvonfancypantsAugust 15th, 2012 at 2:33 pm

I’m a well known shunombulaterix in the field of humonomology with a brood of top-secret weaponized yippibippees (funded by the Pentagon). So it’s imperative that I not disclose my secret identity, nor the location of my lair… er… home…. As such, I have an imbued sense of moral authority. While it’s true that my youthful misdeeds (that run up and down the MPAA rating scale…… up and down… heh-heh…) may be incongruent with my advanced fabulousness, no one can point out the vinegary suppositoriness of said actions but myself. Y’all can all S my D!

XandrayaAugust 15th, 2012 at 3:40 pm

Lol @ baronvonfancypants. You put it perfectly. ;)

PuzzledAugust 15th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

What the hell? Can I have her number?

maoAugust 15th, 2012 at 4:43 pm

@baronvonfancypants +1!

Dr. CheeseAugust 15th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

Damn baron you really put me in my place…. Maybe you should submit a story, although masturbating in front of your 10 cats would not be considered a date.

jasmineAugust 15th, 2012 at 5:37 pm

Sounds like she should be the one posting. The op is definitely the ass in this story.

laurenAugust 15th, 2012 at 5:40 pm

You probably should have mentioned these ‘undesirable traits’ a bit more, cus it mostly just sounds like all she did wrong was not be as attractive as you remembered! Still a bad date for yourself, but maybe worse for her :P

RattusAugust 15th, 2012 at 6:20 pm

Dr. Cheese, your responses to the various condemnatory posters aren’t making anyone second guess their original opinion of you.

MeshellAugust 15th, 2012 at 7:03 pm

Rattus — Actually, it has me rethinking my opinion on him. At first, I thought he was a bit douchey, but hey, I’ve douched many a’time. However, I suppose if it makes you feel better to call him a douche, by all means… Find identity in the judgement of another person.

I’ll just be over here, waiting for you to get over your fear of being wrong in the first place.

OP — Shit happens. Beer goggles had me bouncing around from 3 different guys who were all friends. Totally a bitch move, but hey… I was a fucking idiot and had to learn what it was like to hurt someone so that when I was hurt, I could accept and forgive the person. Though, I suggest you not feed the haters here. They like to assign points and respond how they would do something. It’s adorable.

belieAugust 15th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

really? I didn’t think the op was that bad. i mean yeah he seems a bit vain & self centered but….typical. next!

JeffAugust 15th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

I’m with Rattus et al. all the way on this one. Dr. Cheese, you don’t tell this story like someone who has matured and looks back regretfully on his immature past. You tell it like someone who is every bit as much a tool today as he was back then, just perhaps manifesting it in different ways.

AIPAugust 15th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

No, I got the point of the story. That still doesn’t negate the fact you’re a bit of a prick, whether it’s in real life or as an Internet troll.

SkadeAugust 16th, 2012 at 12:17 am

I think commentators are flocking up against the OP in an exaggerated manner here. He wasn’t that horrible, and he the worst he did was hook his date up with another guy and ditch her, and have an immature attitude about it after. I don’t think I would have ha a great time if I found my date ugly, and there was no chemistry. And when I think about it, I wouldn’ve appreciated a date that would keep going on about a subject that I clearly didn’t find that interesting either, because I really hate when men do that. But as very worst dates go, this is a fairly mild one. Consider yourself lucky, cheeze doctor, if this is the worst you’ve experienced, you’ve had an easy ride.

EmilyAugust 16th, 2012 at 5:07 am

For everyone saying she should have mentioned being a veggie – if you read his post first you’ll see he didn’t mention they were getting food until they actually got there.

baronvonfancypantsAugust 16th, 2012 at 5:49 am

Dr. Cheese- yes, but the fact that your (topless) mother and (bottomless) wife were there and they kept throwing 20s at me while they sang “The Greatest Love”, would.

NattieAugust 16th, 2012 at 9:43 am

@ Dr. Cheese, I’d still like to know why you left her at the bar instead of taking her home.

Everything else just sounds like the average not-so-great date: no physical attraction, fixed-course dinner wasn’t the best idea, Beatrice was a poor conversationalist. But why not just take her home afterwards? Did she demand to do something after the ball game? Did she live too far away? You said that you don’t like Ryan, so why did you do him a favour?

Dr. CheeseAugust 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am

@ Nattie I didn’t consider dumping the hose-beast on Ryan a favor, rather a punishment.

@baron Nice try that was pretty lame.

NattieAugust 16th, 2012 at 11:51 am

Wouldn’t it be weird/cute/nauseating if Beatrice and Ryan ended up getting married?

RattusAugust 16th, 2012 at 12:10 pm

The adult scientist, Dr. Cheese, still refers to an unfortunate date of ten years ago as a “hose-beast” and he wonders why people are referring to him as a douche. Apparently whatever science he is involved with doesn’t involve the use of logic.

EllereAugust 16th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Dr Cheese, I only pray you have no daughters. No girl deserves you as a male role model.

EllereAugust 16th, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Boys don’t either, now that I think on it.

Dr. CheeseAugust 16th, 2012 at 1:04 pm

The adult scientist Dr. Cheese is involved in the protection of endangered species and threatened ecosystems, I believe there is a great deal of logic involved. I never told the girl she was a hose-beast, rather I posted in the comments section, responding to a question to my story that I took the time out of my day to write to entertain you. If I ever submit a story again I will make sure that I represent my point of view as being a super hero. Apparently most commenters believe that having a bad date means that the OP is infallible and the person they are on a date with is a either a rapist or serial killer. If failing to exaggerate that I was the best date ever and my partner was the worst makes me a D bag so be it, I reserve that word for far more serious crimes. Apparently leaving a girl at a bar (2 blocks from where she lives) with a guy she is flirting with is on par with being a a giant D bag.

Dr. CheeseAugust 16th, 2012 at 1:07 pm

@Ellere
Leaving a girl at a bar once when I was 21 makes me a bad role model for my children?…Seems legit.

BettyAugust 16th, 2012 at 4:34 pm

Dr. Cheese-
Ditching a woman at a bar when you were a full-grown man of 21 years does, actually, reflect badly on you. Telling a long-winded story about it, in which you insult her for not being as pretty as you wanted her to be, also reflects badly on you. Then, after telling us all, for some unknown reason “But, I’m a SCIENTIST, people! With a wife, and like, four children! Ergo, I’m a good person!” you felt it was justifiable to call the young lady a “hose beast.”
You, sir, are an insensitive, immature jerk. I hope like hell your kids don’t take after you, and I hope one day you look in the mirror and see yourself as others see you.

RattusAugust 16th, 2012 at 5:10 pm

Your ditching the girl when you were 21 means that you were kind of a douchey 21-year-old who had the potential to grow out of it. The fact that you are borderline bragging about this ten years later and still, at the presumable age of 31 if your timelines are correct, excoriating her appearance and referring to her as a “hose-beast” means that you are indeed a full-fledged, card-carrying douchebag.

flapsAugust 16th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

No, failing _now_ to realize what a dick move it was makes you problematic _now_.

Dr. CheeseAugust 16th, 2012 at 11:27 pm

I never said I was in the right (I thought the story would be better that way). I figured that was obvious. Also, it was a story. I should be ostracized from society. Thanks for letting me know oh so wise MVWD commentators. I will let my wife know that I shouldn’t father children….I’m sure she will understand.

Dr. CheeseAugust 16th, 2012 at 11:38 pm

Rattus. Submit a story. Seriously, just submit one. You comment on here religiously. I hope you have something to resonate with. Or are you just the biggest troll on these comments page. Do you go through life criticizing everything anyone has ever done or have you ever had a bad date. Seriously, put up, or GTFO. I have listened to your self-righteous blullshit for over a year. Everything you say is contradictory, submit a story, leave or kill yourself.

BettyAugust 17th, 2012 at 4:47 am

Dr. Cheese- it really sucks when people are mean to you, huh?

RattusAugust 17th, 2012 at 5:41 am

Dr. Cheese, I would submit a story, but I’ve never had a particularly bad date – I actually get along with people and don’t pick up men when I’m drunk. And FYI, if you don’t wish to be judged on the interwebs, which your hysterical verbal flailing would indicate to be the case, then I suggest that you not post stories where you come across as a massive dirtbag.

SmokeAugust 17th, 2012 at 6:18 am

How about….. Everyone is a dirtbag in this situation. Including the commenters here. I didn’t realize there was so many “Captain Hindsight” clones lately. 21 year olds still do stupid shit, especially while still in college. Sometimes you do grow out of it when reality smacks you in the face and sometimes you don’t. I’m not going to OP bash, there has been enough of that already. I myself would have ditched them too. I hate pro-wreslting, its basically a redneck soap opera.

KaliAugust 18th, 2012 at 1:05 am

You can bitch all you like, Dr Cheese, but this is still a case of Culprit Confesses.

JennanaAugust 18th, 2012 at 9:30 pm

Wow, you get criticized for what was clearly your fault, then you tell someone to go kill themselves? How old is this butthurt jerk? I can’t imagine how messed up his kids will be if he’s this immature over the internet.

JennifurrAugust 19th, 2012 at 11:39 pm

Wow. I have never commented on a story here before but this time I have to. OP, you have to be someone’s very worst date. First off you ask a girl out and spend great lengths discussing her looks, or lack thereof. You could have said “she wasn’t the pretty girl I remembered” but no and by your own admission she was even ugly! I wonder how long you would have taken you to describe her if she was hideous. You say “I neither wanted to sleep with this girl” OK we all now a large percentage of guys want to to have sex when they ask for a date but you didn’t want to sleep with her so therefore you want to ditch her? Congratulations sir, if there were an award for very worst creep I think you’d have a good chance of winning.

Sally Word MercenaryAugust 20th, 2012 at 7:23 am

Good lord, would everyone just lighten up!!

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